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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/1358/comment-page-1#comment-17894</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 22:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you guys just made me feel a lot better. I&#039;m a veteran , and was considered a small arms expert with the M-16. Today I fired a pistol the 1st time in my life, a Beretta Px-4 Storm F. I was upset by my inability to hit the bullseye, all of my rounds went low and to the right, but stayed within the 8 and 9 kill zone. Hearing people talk about firing 6-10&quot; low makes me feel a lot better.   I&#039;ll be doing a lot of range time, I want that &quot;X&quot; every time!  One thing I did notice, at least with my Beretta is that it likes lower grain ammunition. I started out with 9mm Federal Premium 147 grain, and switched to the shooting ranges 9mm Federal American Eagle 105 grain. The accuracy went way up with the lower grain bullet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you guys just made me feel a lot better. I&#8217;m a veteran , and was considered a small arms expert with the M-16. Today I fired a pistol the 1st time in my life, a Beretta Px-4 Storm F. I was upset by my inability to hit the bullseye, all of my rounds went low and to the right, but stayed within the 8 and 9 kill zone. Hearing people talk about firing 6-10&#8243; low makes me feel a lot better.   I&#8217;ll be doing a lot of range time, I want that &#8220;X&#8221; every time!  One thing I did notice, at least with my Beretta is that it likes lower grain ammunition. I started out with 9mm Federal Premium 147 grain, and switched to the shooting ranges 9mm Federal American Eagle 105 grain. The accuracy went way up with the lower grain bullet.</p>
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		<title>By: willie barber</title>
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		<dc:creator>willie barber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 20:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just bought a glock 19 and a glock 34 new. For the life of me I cannot shoot the glock 19. I am a Vietnam veteran and consider myself a pretty good shot, though not an expert. The trigger on my glock 19 is atrocious. At 20 feet, I am shooting 6 to 8 inches low with 10 inch and 20 inch fliers. (It jammed on first shot) (Bad magazine) I picked up my glock 34, out of the box, loaded 17 rounds into the mag, stepped off 20 paces and unloaded all 17 rounds into an area the size of a 50 cent piece.

 Don&#039;t tell me it is me. Just tell me who makes a decent trigger for a glock 19. I like everything about it, size, handling, reliability. At this time it is worthless. It is too light for a boat anchor and too heavy for fishing lead. I need help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bought a glock 19 and a glock 34 new. For the life of me I cannot shoot the glock 19. I am a Vietnam veteran and consider myself a pretty good shot, though not an expert. The trigger on my glock 19 is atrocious. At 20 feet, I am shooting 6 to 8 inches low with 10 inch and 20 inch fliers. (It jammed on first shot) (Bad magazine) I picked up my glock 34, out of the box, loaded 17 rounds into the mag, stepped off 20 paces and unloaded all 17 rounds into an area the size of a 50 cent piece.</p>
<p> Don&#8217;t tell me it is me. Just tell me who makes a decent trigger for a glock 19. I like everything about it, size, handling, reliability. At this time it is worthless. It is too light for a boat anchor and too heavy for fishing lead. I need help.</p>
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		<title>By: Spooky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spooky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well ALL pistols shoot low for me. My .22s my .44 magnum my 9mms and my .40s. I always have to file the front sights down or adjust them as high as they will go. It is me but I can put 6 shots in a 10 inch paper plate at 50 yards with my Ruger Redhawk and shoot dimers at 25 yards with my .22 and empty a magazine into a man size target at 100 yards with my glock 17. So if you hit low but group consistent change your sights(shorter front sight) if you run out of room to adjust.I always prefer a gun to shoot dead on or higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well ALL pistols shoot low for me. My .22s my .44 magnum my 9mms and my .40s. I always have to file the front sights down or adjust them as high as they will go. It is me but I can put 6 shots in a 10 inch paper plate at 50 yards with my Ruger Redhawk and shoot dimers at 25 yards with my .22 and empty a magazine into a man size target at 100 yards with my glock 17. So if you hit low but group consistent change your sights(shorter front sight) if you run out of room to adjust.I always prefer a gun to shoot dead on or higher.</p>
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		<title>By: Adiefender</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adiefender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other thing people need to remember. NEW guns need to be broken in along with the shooter. Nothing makes up for good shooting like constant practice. Here is a link to some practice that you can do at home. http://www.personaldefensetraining.com/showpage.php?target=dryfire.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other thing people need to remember. NEW guns need to be broken in along with the shooter. Nothing makes up for good shooting like constant practice. Here is a link to some practice that you can do at home. <a href="http://www.personaldefensetraining.com/showpage.php?target=dryfire.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.personaldefensetraining.com/showpage.php?target=dryfire.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Freeholder</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/1358/comment-page-1#comment-1898</link>
		<dc:creator>The Freeholder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great device is a laser.  Standard advice about being triple sure the gun is unloaded and then still using something that would be a good backstop applies.  Just aim at the backstop and trigger the laser, then dry fire.  Just watch the pretty red dot and see if it&#039;s jumping around.  If it is, you&#039;ve just identified your problem.

And no, the laser isn&#039;t loose. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great device is a laser.  Standard advice about being triple sure the gun is unloaded and then still using something that would be a good backstop applies.  Just aim at the backstop and trigger the laser, then dry fire.  Just watch the pretty red dot and see if it&#8217;s jumping around.  If it is, you&#8217;ve just identified your problem.</p>
<p>And no, the laser isn&#8217;t loose. <img src='http://pistol-training.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: montanabob</title>
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		<dc:creator>montanabob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 05:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s 99% of the time the shooter.  Really.  Been target shooting air gun, smallbore, high power and pistol since I was 8 years old.  The person (male or female) on the trigger is the one throwing the shots around.  Not the gun.  Actually it was in ONE case.  She was an olympic smallbore shooter and it was a new barrel on the gun and it wasn&#039;t right.  All other cases, its the shooter.  Trigger jerk, anticipating, not concentrating, etc etc etc.  Not the gun.  But the blowhards don&#039;t want to admit that THEY are the problem, so it is the gun/ammo.  Wrong wrong wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s 99% of the time the shooter.  Really.  Been target shooting air gun, smallbore, high power and pistol since I was 8 years old.  The person (male or female) on the trigger is the one throwing the shots around.  Not the gun.  Actually it was in ONE case.  She was an olympic smallbore shooter and it was a new barrel on the gun and it wasn&#8217;t right.  All other cases, its the shooter.  Trigger jerk, anticipating, not concentrating, etc etc etc.  Not the gun.  But the blowhards don&#8217;t want to admit that THEY are the problem, so it is the gun/ammo.  Wrong wrong wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You think shooters are bad for blaming their guns and ammo? Try hanging out at the golf course or a bowling alley and listen to all the complaints about how they could afford better equipment they would be better players.  

Or watch the thousands of dollars guys spend on better equipment and their game doesn&#039;t get any better.

I constantly tell golfers the same thing I tell shooters who complain about their equipment &quot;The only thing wrong with your equipment is the loose wingnut on the end of the grip.&quot;

One day out at the range I listened to two guys argue for almost 30 minutes about what kind scope they needed to put on their rifle in order to shoot it consistently at 400-500 yards. While they were doing that the old man with them was constantly banging the 600 yd target with the iron sights on the gun they wanted to put a scope on.

When he finished I invited the old guy over to shoot with my son and I for a while.  We had a blast for about an hour.  Both the kid and I learned a lot of good old fashioned common sense shooting advice that day.  It was like having my Grandpa around again for a while.  Except that this time I was old enough to really listen to him and pay attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think shooters are bad for blaming their guns and ammo? Try hanging out at the golf course or a bowling alley and listen to all the complaints about how they could afford better equipment they would be better players.  </p>
<p>Or watch the thousands of dollars guys spend on better equipment and their game doesn&#8217;t get any better.</p>
<p>I constantly tell golfers the same thing I tell shooters who complain about their equipment &#8220;The only thing wrong with your equipment is the loose wingnut on the end of the grip.&#8221;</p>
<p>One day out at the range I listened to two guys argue for almost 30 minutes about what kind scope they needed to put on their rifle in order to shoot it consistently at 400-500 yards. While they were doing that the old man with them was constantly banging the 600 yd target with the iron sights on the gun they wanted to put a scope on.</p>
<p>When he finished I invited the old guy over to shoot with my son and I for a while.  We had a blast for about an hour.  Both the kid and I learned a lot of good old fashioned common sense shooting advice that day.  It was like having my Grandpa around again for a while.  Except that this time I was old enough to really listen to him and pay attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is another problem that arises when one changes from 7 yards to 25 yards. The angle of the shooter&#039;s arms, relative to the ground, has to change. If instead you squinch your head down a bit more, rotate your wrists up a bit, and try to align the sights on target from this unconsciously contorted position, you will likely shoot low.  

Try raising the gun, held in both hands, up about 30 degrees above level, and then lower it to align your eyes with the sights. 

Worked for me.

Then when I stopped jerking the trigger, I really started to see improvement in my groups at distance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another problem that arises when one changes from 7 yards to 25 yards. The angle of the shooter&#8217;s arms, relative to the ground, has to change. If instead you squinch your head down a bit more, rotate your wrists up a bit, and try to align the sights on target from this unconsciously contorted position, you will likely shoot low.  </p>
<p>Try raising the gun, held in both hands, up about 30 degrees above level, and then lower it to align your eyes with the sights. </p>
<p>Worked for me.</p>
<p>Then when I stopped jerking the trigger, I really started to see improvement in my groups at distance.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Working at a gun range, I could literally sit on the range all day and correct this non stop.  A solid 75% of the shooters on my range have never been taught proper trigger pull and somehow manage to flinch all the time.  My fav was a guy with an H&amp;K Mk23.  One of the most amazing pistols ever build - shooting 12&quot; low at 15 feet.  

What Paul said.  Problem solved.  (most of the time)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working at a gun range, I could literally sit on the range all day and correct this non stop.  A solid 75% of the shooters on my range have never been taught proper trigger pull and somehow manage to flinch all the time.  My fav was a guy with an H&amp;K Mk23.  One of the most amazing pistols ever build &#8211; shooting 12&#8243; low at 15 feet.  </p>
<p>What Paul said.  Problem solved.  (most of the time)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two simple pieces of advice that I found really helpful were:

1. Keep the sights aligned while slowly pulling the trigger back at a constant rate, so that you&#039;re surprised when it breaks. If you&#039;re surprised when the gun fires, your body doesn&#039;t have time to flinch or anticipate. As you get the hang of it, just learn to do exactly the same thing, but faster.

2. Get a firm grip on the gun. The best analogy I&#039;ve heard is to grip it with the same strength as you&#039;d grip a hammer before banging in a nail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two simple pieces of advice that I found really helpful were:</p>
<p>1. Keep the sights aligned while slowly pulling the trigger back at a constant rate, so that you&#8217;re surprised when it breaks. If you&#8217;re surprised when the gun fires, your body doesn&#8217;t have time to flinch or anticipate. As you get the hang of it, just learn to do exactly the same thing, but faster.</p>
<p>2. Get a firm grip on the gun. The best analogy I&#8217;ve heard is to grip it with the same strength as you&#8217;d grip a hammer before banging in a nail.</p>
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