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		<title>By: Nikuraba29</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikuraba29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd,

Looking at the parts break down for the various LEM triggers are the two key springs # 13 Firing Pin Spring and #22 Trigger bar detent spring from the parts diagram?  Trying to replicate your version 4 with the option of a version 1?  Thanks.  29</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd,</p>
<p>Looking at the parts break down for the various LEM triggers are the two key springs # 13 Firing Pin Spring and #22 Trigger bar detent spring from the parts diagram?  Trying to replicate your version 4 with the option of a version 1?  Thanks.  29</p>
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		<title>By: ToddG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ToddG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 04:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linda -- Had you cleaned and lubricated the pistol prior to shooting it?

I&#039;d wait to see what the range owner thinks first. The P30 is also pretty heavily sprung. I&#039;d recommend putting 100-200 rounds of higher pressure (+p or NATO specification) ammunition through the gun if possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda &#8212; Had you cleaned and lubricated the pistol prior to shooting it?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d wait to see what the range owner thinks first. The P30 is also pretty heavily sprung. I&#8217;d recommend putting 100-200 rounds of higher pressure (+p or NATO specification) ammunition through the gun if possible.</p>
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		<title>By: linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 02:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!  The gun was new.  It was the demo one in the gun store&#039;s case but they do not allow the new guns to be fired without being purchased.  He did not have any other new ones, so he put this one back in the original box.  The ammunition was PMC bronze, 115 grs.  Out of one 15 round clip it failed to feed a live bullet correctly and failed to eject 2 casings.  The indoor range is in the basement of the store.  We went back up to the store to tell them what happened and see if the manager could go fire the gun, but they were so busy with holiday shoppers they just did not have time.  I am hoping to go back this Friday to have the manager shoot the gun with me.  Do new guns tend to have these type of problems?  Now I wish I had bought one of the used ones that we were able to shoot!  linda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!  The gun was new.  It was the demo one in the gun store&#8217;s case but they do not allow the new guns to be fired without being purchased.  He did not have any other new ones, so he put this one back in the original box.  The ammunition was PMC bronze, 115 grs.  Out of one 15 round clip it failed to feed a live bullet correctly and failed to eject 2 casings.  The indoor range is in the basement of the store.  We went back up to the store to tell them what happened and see if the manager could go fire the gun, but they were so busy with holiday shoppers they just did not have time.  I am hoping to go back this Friday to have the manager shoot the gun with me.  Do new guns tend to have these type of problems?  Now I wish I had bought one of the used ones that we were able to shoot!  linda</p>
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		<title>By: ToddG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ToddG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linda -- It&#039;s difficult to evaluate without knowing more. 

Was the P30 you purchased new or used?

What ammo were you putting through it when it malfunctioned?

What exactly happened when it malfunctioned? Was it a failure to feed, fire, extract, or eject?

Have you asked any more experienced shooters to try the gun to see if the problem could be replicated?

While it&#039;s very rare, it&#039;s certainly &lt;em&gt;possible&lt;/em&gt; that your gun has a problem and needs to go back to HK for service. But before taking that step, it&#039;s going to be easier to diagnose the issue and see if there is some more immediate way to remediate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda &#8212; It&#8217;s difficult to evaluate without knowing more. </p>
<p>Was the P30 you purchased new or used?</p>
<p>What ammo were you putting through it when it malfunctioned?</p>
<p>What exactly happened when it malfunctioned? Was it a failure to feed, fire, extract, or eject?</p>
<p>Have you asked any more experienced shooters to try the gun to see if the problem could be replicated?</p>
<p>While it&#8217;s very rare, it&#8217;s certainly <em>possible</em> that your gun has a problem and needs to go back to HK for service. But before taking that step, it&#8217;s going to be easier to diagnose the issue and see if there is some more immediate way to remediate.</p>
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		<title>By: linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 00:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice review.  I just bought a HK P30.  We fired it at the store range just after purchase and it jammed 3 out of the first 15 rounds.  We had just finished shooting a HK2000 and a Glock (used gunes, only ones you can shoot at the store) and did not have a problem.  One reason we sprung for the big bucks for the HK was because of the reputation for reliability.  It was very disappointing.  The store clerk suggested maybe I was &quot;tired&quot; from shooting too much and wasn&#039;t providing enough resistance for the recoil/loading, but my husband also shoot it with the same jamming problem and my accurancy was equal (for the shots it did fire) to my accurancy with the used guns.  My husband is now laughing at me for spending so much money.  What are your thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice review.  I just bought a HK P30.  We fired it at the store range just after purchase and it jammed 3 out of the first 15 rounds.  We had just finished shooting a HK2000 and a Glock (used gunes, only ones you can shoot at the store) and did not have a problem.  One reason we sprung for the big bucks for the HK was because of the reputation for reliability.  It was very disappointing.  The store clerk suggested maybe I was &#8220;tired&#8221; from shooting too much and wasn&#8217;t providing enough resistance for the recoil/loading, but my husband also shoot it with the same jamming problem and my accurancy was equal (for the shots it did fire) to my accurancy with the used guns.  My husband is now laughing at me for spending so much money.  What are your thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: ToddG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ToddG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew -- Best advice I can offer is to contact Custom Carry Concepts directly and ask. I&#039;m confident Rich at CCC can make a holster that will work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew &#8212; Best advice I can offer is to contact Custom Carry Concepts directly and ask. I&#8217;m confident Rich at CCC can make a holster that will work.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd, 

I recently purchased the P30 in 40S&amp;W. That model comes with an ambidextrous safety as you know. My question is does the custom carry looper holster hold the 40cal model or does the safety get in the way? I am looking for a conceal carry holster and still haven&#039;t found one. 

Thanks man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd, </p>
<p>I recently purchased the P30 in 40S&amp;W. That model comes with an ambidextrous safety as you know. My question is does the custom carry looper holster hold the 40cal model or does the safety get in the way? I am looking for a conceal carry holster and still haven&#8217;t found one. </p>
<p>Thanks man.</p>
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		<title>By: ToddG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ToddG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 13:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim -- The box should indicate. It&#039;s almost certainly either a V3 (DA/SA) or V2 (heavy LEM).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim &#8212; The box should indicate. It&#8217;s almost certainly either a V3 (DA/SA) or V2 (heavy LEM).</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 16:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd,

How do I tell which trigger pull set-up I have on my P30 9mm?

Thanking you in advance for your response,

Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd,</p>
<p>How do I tell which trigger pull set-up I have on my P30 9mm?</p>
<p>Thanking you in advance for your response,</p>
<p>Tim</p>
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		<title>By: ToddG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ToddG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 03:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AaronC -- At this point, no &lt;em&gt;official&lt;/em&gt; word on whether we&#039;ll be doing a &lt;strong&gt;pistol-training.com&lt;/strong&gt; P30. HK and I discussed it briefly months back but haven&#039;t revisited the issue lately.

The V4 is supposed to be the new standard LEM model that HK will import beginning this year. The last shipment was V2 but once those are gone, everything coming into the US (LEM, anyway) should be V4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AaronC &#8212; At this point, no <em>official</em> word on whether we&#8217;ll be doing a <strong>pistol-training.com</strong> P30. HK and I discussed it briefly months back but haven&#8217;t revisited the issue lately.</p>
<p>The V4 is supposed to be the new standard LEM model that HK will import beginning this year. The last shipment was V2 but once those are gone, everything coming into the US (LEM, anyway) should be V4.</p>
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