Comments on: Drill of the Week: 3-Position Reloads http://pistol-training.com/archives/158 for Teachers and Students of the Pistol Sat, 11 Feb 2012 04:39:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ToddG http://pistol-training.com/archives/158/comment-page-1#comment-198 ToddG Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:54:09 +0000 http://pistol-training.com/archives/158#comment-198 Two different issues. Economy of motion: what you say makes sense if you're only talking about the shooting hand. But a reload involves your other hand and a magazine moving towards the gun. The angle you're seeing puts the magazine well in a direct line with the magazine coming up to the gun. Inserting the magazine into a gun that is help straight up and straight out at the target is much more awkward and slower. The most economical <em>combined</em> movement might not necessarily mean one hand should remain still. Safety: you're certainly correct that this particular method often points the gun up over the berm if the berms are short, and the gun isn't pointed straight downrange, either. In neither case does this necessarily violate Rule 2. It's also within the spirit of Rule 4, because you <em>are aware</em>. Rule 4 doesn't say "never point your gun up." Ironically, as the gun starts to point too far to the side (getting close to breaking the 180-rule in competition) or too high, you start to rub up against the economy of motion problem <em>and</em> you can also put the gun at an angle that makes it harder for the magazine to fall free. Two different issues.

Economy of motion: what you say makes sense if you’re only talking about the shooting hand. But a reload involves your other hand and a magazine moving towards the gun. The angle you’re seeing puts the magazine well in a direct line with the magazine coming up to the gun. Inserting the magazine into a gun that is help straight up and straight out at the target is much more awkward and slower. The most economical combined movement might not necessarily mean one hand should remain still.

Safety: you’re certainly correct that this particular method often points the gun up over the berm if the berms are short, and the gun isn’t pointed straight downrange, either. In neither case does this necessarily violate Rule 2. It’s also within the spirit of Rule 4, because you are aware. Rule 4 doesn’t say “never point your gun up.”

Ironically, as the gun starts to point too far to the side (getting close to breaking the 180-rule in competition) or too high, you start to rub up against the economy of motion problem and you can also put the gun at an angle that makes it harder for the magazine to fall free.

]]> By: DNS http://pistol-training.com/archives/158/comment-page-1#comment-197 DNS Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:32:30 +0000 http://pistol-training.com/archives/158#comment-197 I understand about the economies of motion and I understand about always obeying the rules of firearms safety mentioned in your posts. The picture here and in a couple of your previous posts on reloads appear to show a violation of rule#2 (never point your gun at something you don't intend to destroy or kill) and #4 (know your target, backstop, and beyond). The gun would appear to be pointed in a non-safe direction such that an errant shot would be loosed outside of the confines of the range where you are practicing. As far as the economy of motion, you have swung your muzzle way out of position such that it isn't pointed anywhere near the hypothetical downrange threat, unless in this case, your threat is just a few feet distant, or in the previous posts airborne or on the roof of some building. What would be wrong with keeping the muzzle pointed toward the threat instead of the sky? This practice of pointing guns skyward and left generally isn't in keeping with economy of motion especially if the EOM pertains threats. It isn't safe in regard to muzzle discipline. I understand about the economies of motion and I understand about always obeying the rules of firearms safety mentioned in your posts.

The picture here and in a couple of your previous posts on reloads appear to show a violation of rule#2 (never point your gun at something you don’t intend to destroy or kill) and #4 (know your target, backstop, and beyond). The gun would appear to be pointed in a non-safe direction such that an errant shot would be loosed outside of the confines of the range where you are practicing.

As far as the economy of motion, you have swung your muzzle way out of position such that it isn’t pointed anywhere near the hypothetical downrange threat, unless in this case, your threat is just a few feet distant, or in the previous posts airborne or on the roof of some building.

What would be wrong with keeping the muzzle pointed toward the threat instead of the sky? This practice of pointing guns skyward and left generally isn’t in keeping with economy of motion especially if the EOM pertains threats. It isn’t safe in regard to muzzle discipline.

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