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		<title>By: ToddG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ToddG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Received the Return Authorization number late Friday. Send the pistol out via FedEx Next Day Air yesterday (Monday) so it will arrive today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Received the Return Authorization number late Friday. Send the pistol out via FedEx Next Day Air yesterday (Monday) so it will arrive today.</p>
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		<title>By: gtmtnbiker98</title>
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		<dc:creator>gtmtnbiker98</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Todd, what&#039;s the status on your repair/inspection?  Curious to learn whether or not your repair/inspection was expedited - given the test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Todd, what&#8217;s the status on your repair/inspection?  Curious to learn whether or not your repair/inspection was expedited &#8211; given the test.</p>
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		<title>By: Papershooter</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Papershooter — The difference is that my spare P30 didn’t cost me anything.&quot;
I knew that was coming !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Papershooter — The difference is that my spare P30 didn’t cost me anything.&#8221;<br />
I knew that was coming !</p>
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		<title>By: Gtmtnbiker98</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must be nice!!  I had to pay for both of mine, but it was money well spent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must be nice!!  I had to pay for both of mine, but it was money well spent.</p>
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		<title>By: ToddG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ToddG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 03:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gtmtnbiker98 -- Do a search here for &quot;sight tracking&quot; ... that and some trigger reset drills should help you get more consistent on the splits. But anything under 0.25 is good. Once you reach 0.25, everything else is more for show than performance. Watch videos of world-class IPSC guys and except on very close wide-open targets, 0.20-0.25 splits are pretty normal.

P30Man -- I doubt HK will release a replacement schedule publicly. Most companies don&#039;t. The unofficial advice I got during the one-on-one armorer training was to replace the entire recoil assembly at 25,000 rounds. This isn&#039;t required, just the easiest (though more expensive) approach. The rod itself doesn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;have to&lt;/em&gt; be replaced at that point, and I don&#039;t think the buffer is expected to need it then, either. But given the cost of replacement vs. the cost of 25,000 rounds of ammo, just replacing the whole thing seems like the easiest solution to me. 

I&#039;ve had no problems with my followers, at least none I&#039;ve noticed.

Papershooter -- The difference is that my spare P30 didn&#039;t cost me anything. :cool:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gtmtnbiker98 &#8212; Do a search here for &#8220;sight tracking&#8221; &#8230; that and some trigger reset drills should help you get more consistent on the splits. But anything under 0.25 is good. Once you reach 0.25, everything else is more for show than performance. Watch videos of world-class IPSC guys and except on very close wide-open targets, 0.20-0.25 splits are pretty normal.</p>
<p>P30Man &#8212; I doubt HK will release a replacement schedule publicly. Most companies don&#8217;t. The unofficial advice I got during the one-on-one armorer training was to replace the entire recoil assembly at 25,000 rounds. This isn&#8217;t required, just the easiest (though more expensive) approach. The rod itself doesn&#8217;t <em>have to</em> be replaced at that point, and I don&#8217;t think the buffer is expected to need it then, either. But given the cost of replacement vs. the cost of 25,000 rounds of ammo, just replacing the whole thing seems like the easiest solution to me. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had no problems with my followers, at least none I&#8217;ve noticed.</p>
<p>Papershooter &#8212; The difference is that my spare P30 didn&#8217;t cost me anything. <img src='http://pistol-training.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt=':cool:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Papershooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Papershooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Luckily, I have a spare P30”

Quote:Originally Posted by Papershooter 
Had to get both 

ToddG Industry Professional
 Dude, you&#039;re killing me ... 

My turn,DUDE YOUR KIlLING ME! lol
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=13631&amp;page=5

Todd keep up the great work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Luckily, I have a spare P30”</p>
<p>Quote:Originally Posted by Papershooter<br />
Had to get both </p>
<p>ToddG Industry Professional<br />
 Dude, you&#8217;re killing me &#8230; </p>
<p>My turn,DUDE YOUR KIlLING ME! lol<br />
<a href="http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=13631&#038;page=5" rel="nofollow">http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=13631&#038;page=5</a></p>
<p>Todd keep up the great work.</p>
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		<title>By: P30Man</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be interesting to see what the issue is.

As the only P30 armorer hopefully you will know what is the maintenance schedule for the gun (ie the slide spring, recoil buffer, mag springs, etc)? Manual is silent on these issues. Certainly not forever.

Have you had to replace the chewed up P30 mag followers? Mine got chewed up after 1000 rounds.

Perhaps you could post some pictures of the strategic location of the lube on the action too. We assume you have the P30 v2? When are the other variants going to be available in the US?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be interesting to see what the issue is.</p>
<p>As the only P30 armorer hopefully you will know what is the maintenance schedule for the gun (ie the slide spring, recoil buffer, mag springs, etc)? Manual is silent on these issues. Certainly not forever.</p>
<p>Have you had to replace the chewed up P30 mag followers? Mine got chewed up after 1000 rounds.</p>
<p>Perhaps you could post some pictures of the strategic location of the lube on the action too. We assume you have the P30 v2? When are the other variants going to be available in the US?</p>
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		<title>By: gtmtnbiker98</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad to hear the P30 is suffering from issues.  I have a number of rounds through my P30 and my impressions walking away from the firing line are quite similar to yours.  

I had an opportunity to shoot 400-rounds yesterday through my P30 and was managing 1.3 to 1.4 second draws from a level-2 holster and was managing all -0 hits from 10-yards.  I long feared the transition from a striker fired platform until I made the move to the P30.  My splits are not as good as yours, but I did manage some splits in the teens, but I was primarily hitting in the .20-.28 range with consistency.  If I go faster, my accuracy pays the consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad to hear the P30 is suffering from issues.  I have a number of rounds through my P30 and my impressions walking away from the firing line are quite similar to yours.  </p>
<p>I had an opportunity to shoot 400-rounds yesterday through my P30 and was managing 1.3 to 1.4 second draws from a level-2 holster and was managing all -0 hits from 10-yards.  I long feared the transition from a striker fired platform until I made the move to the P30.  My splits are not as good as yours, but I did manage some splits in the teens, but I was primarily hitting in the .20-.28 range with consistency.  If I go faster, my accuracy pays the consequences.</p>
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