Comments on: P30 Thursday: Week Eleven

By: msb

msb — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:08:43 +0000

I started shooting again in april after a long lay off found the site and the other day shot the fast drill a few times
I have a video but no timer is the a way to time it I was just curious too see where the time is at.

By: msb

msb — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:06:08 +0000

Hello to all I’m new to the site great stuff.

By: P30man

P30man — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:22:39 +0000

Forgot to ask do you have any pictures of the barrel interior; how much fouling esp. copper was built up. It would be a good idea to have run a bench rested group measurement with the barrel dirty and then after a thorough cleaning to what the grouping sizes were.

It seems like my P30 barrel gets copper fouled pretty easily on a low round count–even only 100 rounds. I have not run any accuracy tests to see if it affects accuracy but just seeing it frustrates me. BTW all ammo does this and other barrels seem not to get fouled so easily–whether standard L&G or polygonal.

By: P30man

P30man — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:14:34 +0000

Could you post a picture of the lower breechface side which is opposite the extractor? (cant see it in your “dirty breechface”) picture. I want to see what wear or indents (if any) there are along the slide there from the edge of the cartridge brass?

I do notice some pitting below the firing pin hole which I also have seen on mine.

By: John_Wayne777

John_Wayne777 — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:09:48 +0000

Trigger return springs are a wear item and should be replaced regularly. If you’ll recall, the M&P also had a trigger return spring break in the 20K range.

I don’t think we can find too much fault with a return spring that gives up the ghost after 20,000 rounds.

By: ToddG

ToddG — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:19:42 +0000

gtmtnbiker98 — the only three substances on my bench are Shooter’s Choice solvent (for all cleaning needs), Militec 1 oil (for lubricating the slide/barrel and slide/frame contact points), and TW25B grease (for lubricating the contact points of the action when I detail strip the gun).

By: ToddG

ToddG — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:47:24 +0000

I’d have to agree with joshs. My personal rule was always to change springs at 10,000. It’s a little early to be comparing things. The HK hasn’t had a single part replaced for maintenance yet, not even the recoil spring. Without doubt, the hammer spring issue was unfortunate for HK but to their credit they proved it was a simple fix. Hopefully, it will run without further incident. After all, I’m the guy carrying it!

By: joshs

joshs — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:17:34 +0000

I don’t think breaking a trigger return spring just shy of 20,000 rounds is that big of a ding against the P30, most people would replace it for preventative maintenance at a much lower round count. The M&P did go almost twice as long before it broke a trigger spring though.

By: Regularguy

Regularguy — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:44:55 +0000

I surely would of expected better performance from H&K.

By: gtmtnbiker98

gtmtnbiker98 — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:42:36 +0000

I forgot to ask, hey Todd, what did you use to clean the pistol with? I can’t recall ever seeing a pistol with that much carbon build up. Did it require a hammer and chisel?