Taurus Quality

8-Dec-09 – 10:44 by ToddG

Really, this just speaks for itself. Thanks to gotm4 of M4Carbine.net for the pics:

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How in the world did someone put that revolver, in that condition, in a box without realizing it was completely and utterly FUBAR? Screwing up a machining process I can accept. It happens. But letting something like this get through your Quality Control process? Unforgivable.

Train hard & stay safe! ToddG

  1. 26 Responses to “Taurus Quality”

  2. I am definately interested in purchasing that revolver, what a conversation piece! One of a kind.

    By lank on Dec 8, 2009

  3. Looks like a snubby for Bianchi Cup or something.

    By Rob Engh on Dec 8, 2009

  4. This is not surprising and is why I don’t trust their products. They can make a perfectly good gun one day and let this out the door the next.

    My first centerfire handgun was a Taurus PT99 and it went bang every time but was never “as good as” a Beretta in the accuracy dept. Never should have believed the guy at the gun shop who sold it to me.

    By Kirk on Dec 8, 2009

  5. Kirk — A PT99 was my first pistol! Went back to Taurus twice (rear sight kept falling off) before I sold it in favor of a USP40. That was fifteen years ago.

    By ToddG on Dec 8, 2009

  6. That’s just ridiculous…

    By _JD_ on Dec 8, 2009

  7. My first thought was “What’s wrong? It’s just another goofy-looking new model from Taurus. Heyyy… waitaminnit…

    By Tam on Dec 8, 2009

  8. Are you sure it isn’t a new model aimed at the videogame crowd?

    By Antibubba on Dec 8, 2009

  9. Ok, does this thing also shoot airsoft pellets? Hey who shoved the ratchet wrench bit in the front?

    By ATL on Dec 8, 2009

  10. Hey I think that might even be legal in Canada!

    By Rob Engh on Dec 8, 2009

  11. Looks like the didn’t cut off the end that locks into the lathe… How that got through is unforgivable. Unless someone thought that it looked kinda cool. Which it kinda does.

    By Ogre on Dec 9, 2009

  12. This really isnt too uncommon we got one of these at the shop I work at., the end of muzzle is crowned. Something about importing is what the distributor said

    By Chris K on Dec 9, 2009

  13. Ah!

    Got it.

    As I understood it, they used to import all their J-frame-sized guns with 3- or 4-inch barrels, unscrew the long barrels, thread in the 2″ tubes, and ship the longer barrels back to Brazil for the next batch. That’s got to exact a certain toll in cracked frames and buggered threads as a cost of doing business.

    Now it appears that they bring them in with the long unfinished nubbin hanging off the end and cut and crown them in Miami. Some must have gotten past the “cut and crown” part. Now it makes sense.

    By Tam on Dec 9, 2009

  14. Is that a step-cut for mounting an M203? 😉

    By jcmiller on Dec 9, 2009

  15. No, that’s so they make enough points under GCA ’68 for BATFE to let them in on a Form 6. Granted, that’s not as funny…

    By Tam on Dec 9, 2009

  16. Unless they’re getting around GCA68 by calling it a powered bit driver. Now that would be funny.

    And more useful than a Taurus revolver.

    By ToddG on Dec 9, 2009

  17. I’m very confused;what is it????

    By The Fish on Dec 9, 2009

  18. The pistol is trying to compensate for a small barrel.

    By BobG on Dec 9, 2009

  19. You know, I had a PT99 that was absurdly accurate. I was putting entire magazines in a nickel sized hole at 20 yards with that thing. I took a chance on a .357 CIA revolver, and that thing is awesome accurate and built like a tank.

    Then I see this. Weird.

    By Some guy on Dec 9, 2009

  20. sweet heater.

    By David on Dec 10, 2009

  21. The Fish: Tam figured it out.

    The Gun Control Act of 1968 restricted what guns could be imported into the US. For pistols, there is a “point” system that takes into account various features that meet some arbitrary standard. Here is the complete list for pistols and revolvers:

    http://www.recguns.com/Sources/IIG6.html

    Note that the minimum revolver barrel length required for importation is 3″. So these Taurus revolvers are shipped into the US with these crazy barrels attached. Once they are in the country, somebody cuts off the extra barrel length. So what must have happened is, one of these just slipped through the cracks and was passed on to the distributor without going through the cut-off step. However, this is how ALL of this model of revolver left the factory in Brazil for export to the US.

    Glock does things like this too to import some of their subcompact models. They don’t meet the “points” requirements on their own, so they are shipped with big, adjustable target sights for an extra 5 or 10 points to meet the importability test. Once they are in the US, the target sights are replaced with the standard Glock sights.

    Walther also had to create the PPK/S for sale in the US after the GCA ’68 passed. The original PPK was too small by some tiny amount, so they made the frame larger and sold it in the US as the PPK/S.

    In other words, this Taurus demonstrates the BS that foreign gun makers have to go through to import into the US. It was manufactured properly in Brazil, but it was not finished in the US like it should have been.

    By Gun Blobber on Dec 10, 2009

  22. taurus the cia 650 is a good gun and the pt100 40acp is the bomb

    By blue on Dec 11, 2009

  23. Glock does things like this too to import some of their subcompact models. They don’t meet the “points” requirements on their own, so they are shipped with big, adjustable target sights for an extra 5 or 10 points to meet the importability test. Once they are in the US, the target sights are replaced with the standard Glock sights.

    Incidentally, you might notice that the compact Glocks have ridged triggers, unlike the smooth triggers on the full-size guns. These are “target triggers” in the BATFE point system. Also, the thumb divots in the Glock frame came about at the same time as the introduction of the subcompacts: Yup, “target grips”. With the cheesy adjustable sights on board, the G26 is a veritable “target pistol”, at least according to the points system.

    By Tam on Dec 13, 2009

  24. “How in the world did someone put that revolver, in that condition, in a box without realizing it was completely and utterly FUBAR?”
    The same way Springfield put a 1911 in a box that, when removed from the box, had a thumb safety that could not be engaged, a grip safety that when depressed had to be pried back up, a a right grip panel that fell off when the gun was picked up, and so on. The same way S&W put a gun in the obox (revolver) with a barrel that was not tightened and when you picked up the gun the front sight promptly rotatede to the horizontal position instead of vertical. Make enough guns and eventually some of them are going to get through all the controls.

    By David Armstrong on Dec 13, 2009

  25. Weird. They can do whatever they need to do to import guns, and I still won’t ever buy one. I had a PT99 that broke the locking block almost down the center at 600 rounds. It took them three months to get a replacement to me. Never again.

    By Haji on Dec 15, 2009

  26. The last three Taurus revolvers I have tried have been dogs. The last was a CIA in .357 that was completely out of time, then after it came back from the factory it wouldn’t lock up at all.

    Kind if sad since the PT99AF I used to own was superb.

    By Chuck Haggard on Dec 19, 2009

  27. Cool! Want!

    By Dandapani on Dec 20, 2009

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