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		<title>By: Dandapani</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/2146/comment-page-1#comment-3315</link>
		<dc:creator>Dandapani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool! Want!</description>
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		<title>By: Chuck Haggard</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/2146/comment-page-1#comment-3294</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Haggard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 09:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last three Taurus revolvers I have tried have been dogs.  The last was a CIA in .357 that was completely out of time, then after it came back from the factory it wouldn&#039;t lock up at all.

Kind if sad since the PT99AF I used to own was superb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last three Taurus revolvers I have tried have been dogs.  The last was a CIA in .357 that was completely out of time, then after it came back from the factory it wouldn&#8217;t lock up at all.</p>
<p>Kind if sad since the PT99AF I used to own was superb.</p>
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		<title>By: Haji</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 05:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weird. They can do whatever they need to do to import guns, and I still won&#039;t ever buy one. I had a PT99 that broke the locking block almost down the center at 600 rounds. It took them three months to get a replacement to me. Never again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weird. They can do whatever they need to do to import guns, and I still won&#8217;t ever buy one. I had a PT99 that broke the locking block almost down the center at 600 rounds. It took them three months to get a replacement to me. Never again.</p>
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		<title>By: David Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/2146/comment-page-1#comment-3226</link>
		<dc:creator>David Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 23:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How in the world did someone put that revolver, in that condition, in a box without realizing it was completely and utterly FUBAR?&quot;
The same way Springfield put a 1911 in a box that, when removed from the box, had a thumb safety that could not be engaged, a grip safety that when depressed had to be pried back up, a a right grip panel that fell off when the gun was picked up, and so on.  The same way S&amp;W put a gun in the obox (revolver) with a barrel that was not tightened and when you picked up the gun the front sight promptly rotatede to the horizontal position instead of vertical.  Make enough guns and eventually some of them are going to get through all the controls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How in the world did someone put that revolver, in that condition, in a box without realizing it was completely and utterly FUBAR?&#8221;<br />
The same way Springfield put a 1911 in a box that, when removed from the box, had a thumb safety that could not be engaged, a grip safety that when depressed had to be pried back up, a a right grip panel that fell off when the gun was picked up, and so on.  The same way S&amp;W put a gun in the obox (revolver) with a barrel that was not tightened and when you picked up the gun the front sight promptly rotatede to the horizontal position instead of vertical.  Make enough guns and eventually some of them are going to get through all the controls.</p>
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		<title>By: Tam</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/2146/comment-page-1#comment-3218</link>
		<dc:creator>Tam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;Glock does things like this too to import some of their subcompact models. They don’t meet the “points” requirements on their own, so they are shipped with big, adjustable target sights for an extra 5 or 10 points to meet the importability test. Once they are in the US, the target sights are replaced with the standard Glock sights.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Incidentally, you might notice that the compact Glocks have ridged triggers, unlike the smooth triggers on the full-size guns. These are &quot;target triggers&quot; in the BATFE point system. Also, the thumb divots in the Glock frame came about at the same time as the introduction of the subcompacts: Yup, &quot;target grips&quot;. With the cheesy adjustable sights on board, the G26 is a veritable &quot;target pistol&quot;, at least according to the points system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>Glock does things like this too to import some of their subcompact models. They don’t meet the “points” requirements on their own, so they are shipped with big, adjustable target sights for an extra 5 or 10 points to meet the importability test. Once they are in the US, the target sights are replaced with the standard Glock sights.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Incidentally, you might notice that the compact Glocks have ridged triggers, unlike the smooth triggers on the full-size guns. These are &#8220;target triggers&#8221; in the BATFE point system. Also, the thumb divots in the Glock frame came about at the same time as the introduction of the subcompacts: Yup, &#8220;target grips&#8221;. With the cheesy adjustable sights on board, the G26 is a veritable &#8220;target pistol&#8221;, at least according to the points system.</p>
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		<title>By: blue</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/2146/comment-page-1#comment-3198</link>
		<dc:creator>blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>taurus the cia 650 is a good gun and the pt100 40acp is the bomb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>taurus the cia 650 is a good gun and the pt100 40acp is the bomb</p>
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		<title>By: Gun Blobber</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/2146/comment-page-1#comment-3175</link>
		<dc:creator>Gun Blobber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Fish: Tam figured it out.

The Gun Control Act of 1968 restricted what guns could be imported into the US.  For pistols, there is a &quot;point&quot; system that takes into account various features that meet some arbitrary standard.  Here is the complete list for pistols and revolvers:

http://www.recguns.com/Sources/IIG6.html

Note that the minimum revolver barrel length required for importation is 3&quot;.  So these Taurus revolvers are shipped into the US with these crazy barrels attached.  Once they are in the country, somebody cuts off the extra barrel length.  So what must have happened is, one of these just slipped through the cracks and was passed on to the distributor without going through the cut-off step.  However, this is how ALL of this model of revolver left the factory in Brazil for export to the US.

Glock does things like this too to import some of their subcompact models.  They don&#039;t meet the &quot;points&quot; requirements on their own, so they are shipped with big, adjustable target sights for an extra 5 or 10 points to meet the importability test.  Once they are in the US, the target sights are replaced with the standard Glock sights.

Walther also had to create the PPK/S for sale in the US after the GCA &#039;68 passed.  The original PPK was too small by some tiny amount, so they made the frame larger and sold it in the US as the PPK/S.

In other words, this Taurus demonstrates the BS that foreign gun makers have to go through to import into the US.  It was manufactured properly in Brazil, but it was not finished in the US like it should have been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Fish: Tam figured it out.</p>
<p>The Gun Control Act of 1968 restricted what guns could be imported into the US.  For pistols, there is a &#8220;point&#8221; system that takes into account various features that meet some arbitrary standard.  Here is the complete list for pistols and revolvers:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.recguns.com/Sources/IIG6.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.recguns.com/Sources/IIG6.html</a></p>
<p>Note that the minimum revolver barrel length required for importation is 3&#8243;.  So these Taurus revolvers are shipped into the US with these crazy barrels attached.  Once they are in the country, somebody cuts off the extra barrel length.  So what must have happened is, one of these just slipped through the cracks and was passed on to the distributor without going through the cut-off step.  However, this is how ALL of this model of revolver left the factory in Brazil for export to the US.</p>
<p>Glock does things like this too to import some of their subcompact models.  They don&#8217;t meet the &#8220;points&#8221; requirements on their own, so they are shipped with big, adjustable target sights for an extra 5 or 10 points to meet the importability test.  Once they are in the US, the target sights are replaced with the standard Glock sights.</p>
<p>Walther also had to create the PPK/S for sale in the US after the GCA &#8217;68 passed.  The original PPK was too small by some tiny amount, so they made the frame larger and sold it in the US as the PPK/S.</p>
<p>In other words, this Taurus demonstrates the BS that foreign gun makers have to go through to import into the US.  It was manufactured properly in Brazil, but it was not finished in the US like it should have been.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sweet heater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sweet heater.</p>
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		<title>By: Some guy</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/2146/comment-page-1#comment-3170</link>
		<dc:creator>Some guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I had a PT99 that was absurdly accurate.  I was putting entire magazines in a nickel sized hole at 20 yards with that thing.  I took a chance on a .357 CIA revolver, and that thing is awesome accurate and built like a tank.

Then I see this.  Weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I had a PT99 that was absurdly accurate.  I was putting entire magazines in a nickel sized hole at 20 yards with that thing.  I took a chance on a .357 CIA revolver, and that thing is awesome accurate and built like a tank.</p>
<p>Then I see this.  Weird.</p>
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		<title>By: BobG</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pistol is trying to compensate for a small barrel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pistol is trying to compensate for a small barrel.</p>
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