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		<title>By: Tam</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/2171/comment-page-1#comment-3652</link>
		<dc:creator>Tam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The LDA is about as &quot;double action&quot; as a Ruger Blackhawk...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The LDA is about as &#8220;double action&#8221; as a Ruger Blackhawk&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/2171/comment-page-1#comment-3649</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Todd Jarrett has competed and won a few
matches with double action only trigger.If I am wrong, please, someone correct me.</description>
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matches with double action only trigger.If I am wrong, please, someone correct me.</p>
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		<title>By: P30man</title>
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		<dc:creator>P30man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarifications
1) A SFA can have a second strike capability (see Walther P99) 2) A SFA can have a DA/SA setup (again see Walther P99). 3) One has to be careful taking the Glock action and generalizing to &quot;SFA&quot; in a theoretical sense.

Re the P250 and SFA. 
Well this development is probably because the P250 trigger is like a lightish double action revolver action. For police departments going to a Semi from a Revolver this would make a good choice as retraining costs would be low (sorry no work for you Todd ;-)). There also is the fact that as a dept weapon the customization, limited parts, and simplicity is very nice. It is a great gun for administrators who come up with a bunch of criteria on paper; it looks great in matching their desires. 

But, its performance (im not talking reliability) is pretty difficult to justify in terms of comparing to other choices. If maximum speed with good accuracy is important then the P250 (without ridiculous training costs and time invested) is a slower gun to put multiple rounds on target than other choices. If your job is to slow down hyped up &quot;trigger happy&quot; officers then you have met a very good match--the trigger will do just that (perhaps too well). The consistent P250 trigger pull is nice (as with glocks). It is very smooth. But of course the 1) long relatively heavy pull 2) long reset is both &quot;good&quot; and &quot;bad&quot;--but I see mostly bad if you have good training and habits. The external hammer is nice: 1) visual cue for trigger advance 2) great for reholstering to prevent AD/ND (cannot happen if this hammer is covered!) 3) visual cue for break point--since the P250 action does not have a defined point where you know it will break. (In general I think an external guide/indicator is a good thing and in the form of a hammer it lets you know the &quot;state&quot; of the gun. XD and Walter have their takes on indicators and that is a disadvantage to the Glock and M+P design in my mind.) 

If you are trying to get contracts from agencies that have Glocks then guess what Sig needs to do--go &quot;SFA&quot;. (What type of SFA will be interesting to see.) Then they can market all the other stuff and not have the officers testing the thing criticize the action speed.

For individuals all the interchangability and sizes are way overrated due to the high total cost of ownership. Only in restrictive locales with gun quota maximums would this be an advantage due to have only &quot;one&quot; gun with more capabilities. For an individual who was a revolver only shooter who does not want to train much and learn new things then the P250 would be an excellent choice. He might not say it but I think that may be why John Farnham likes and carries it--because he cut his teeth on the revolver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarifications<br />
1) A SFA can have a second strike capability (see Walther P99) 2) A SFA can have a DA/SA setup (again see Walther P99). 3) One has to be careful taking the Glock action and generalizing to &#8220;SFA&#8221; in a theoretical sense.</p>
<p>Re the P250 and SFA.<br />
Well this development is probably because the P250 trigger is like a lightish double action revolver action. For police departments going to a Semi from a Revolver this would make a good choice as retraining costs would be low (sorry no work for you Todd <img src='http://pistol-training.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ). There also is the fact that as a dept weapon the customization, limited parts, and simplicity is very nice. It is a great gun for administrators who come up with a bunch of criteria on paper; it looks great in matching their desires. </p>
<p>But, its performance (im not talking reliability) is pretty difficult to justify in terms of comparing to other choices. If maximum speed with good accuracy is important then the P250 (without ridiculous training costs and time invested) is a slower gun to put multiple rounds on target than other choices. If your job is to slow down hyped up &#8220;trigger happy&#8221; officers then you have met a very good match&#8211;the trigger will do just that (perhaps too well). The consistent P250 trigger pull is nice (as with glocks). It is very smooth. But of course the 1) long relatively heavy pull 2) long reset is both &#8220;good&#8221; and &#8220;bad&#8221;&#8211;but I see mostly bad if you have good training and habits. The external hammer is nice: 1) visual cue for trigger advance 2) great for reholstering to prevent AD/ND (cannot happen if this hammer is covered!) 3) visual cue for break point&#8211;since the P250 action does not have a defined point where you know it will break. (In general I think an external guide/indicator is a good thing and in the form of a hammer it lets you know the &#8220;state&#8221; of the gun. XD and Walter have their takes on indicators and that is a disadvantage to the Glock and M+P design in my mind.) </p>
<p>If you are trying to get contracts from agencies that have Glocks then guess what Sig needs to do&#8211;go &#8220;SFA&#8221;. (What type of SFA will be interesting to see.) Then they can market all the other stuff and not have the officers testing the thing criticize the action speed.</p>
<p>For individuals all the interchangability and sizes are way overrated due to the high total cost of ownership. Only in restrictive locales with gun quota maximums would this be an advantage due to have only &#8220;one&#8221; gun with more capabilities. For an individual who was a revolver only shooter who does not want to train much and learn new things then the P250 would be an excellent choice. He might not say it but I think that may be why John Farnham likes and carries it&#8211;because he cut his teeth on the revolver.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/2171/comment-page-1#comment-3375</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be nice. I like the way the P250 feels in my hand, and its trigger mechanism definitely an improvement over the regular SIG trigger mechanism, but the trigger reset is awfully long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be nice. I like the way the P250 feels in my hand, and its trigger mechanism definitely an improvement over the regular SIG trigger mechanism, but the trigger reset is awfully long.</p>
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		<title>By: Mik L</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/2171/comment-page-1#comment-3273</link>
		<dc:creator>Mik L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regularguy,  problem is: will Sig $upport ToddG&#039;s testing? I doubt it. With the FAM contract they supposedly got for this model and this new SFA variant coming out, I don&#039;t see them cooperating.  And I&#039;m sure ToddG is still wondering how long the P30 testing will last (wish i had a faction of that ammo supply!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regularguy,  problem is: will Sig $upport ToddG&#8217;s testing? I doubt it. With the FAM contract they supposedly got for this model and this new SFA variant coming out, I don&#8217;t see them cooperating.  And I&#8217;m sure ToddG is still wondering how long the P30 testing will last (wish i had a faction of that ammo supply!).</p>
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		<title>By: Regularguy</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/2171/comment-page-1#comment-3272</link>
		<dc:creator>Regularguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd,
 Lets do it.... I really enjoy your website and feedback on gun performance. I only wish that I was 1/4 good enough to qualify for your F.A.S.T challenge. Keep up the good work.

p.s. What do you think of the P228?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd,<br />
 Lets do it&#8230;. I really enjoy your website and feedback on gun performance. I only wish that I was 1/4 good enough to qualify for your F.A.S.T challenge. Keep up the good work.</p>
<p>p.s. What do you think of the P228?</p>
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		<title>By: Mik L</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/2171/comment-page-1#comment-3270</link>
		<dc:creator>Mik L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regularguy, I concur. Let the testing begin, along with the subjective feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regularguy, I concur. Let the testing begin, along with the subjective feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: ToddG</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/2171/comment-page-1#comment-3264</link>
		<dc:creator>ToddG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who might not know him, Simon is a LEO who, though his previous and current agencies, has both received and provided more tactical firearms training in the past five years than most of us would get in five lifetimes. More importantly, he is one of the very few &lt;a href=&quot;http://pistol-training.com/fastest&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;F.A.S.T. Challenge Coin&lt;/a&gt; holders... a feat he accomplished with a DA/SA SIG P229R at the very first class I taught after forming my company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who might not know him, Simon is a LEO who, though his previous and current agencies, has both received and provided more tactical firearms training in the past five years than most of us would get in five lifetimes. More importantly, he is one of the very few <a href="http://pistol-training.com/fastest" rel="nofollow">F.A.S.T. Challenge Coin</a> holders&#8230; a feat he accomplished with a DA/SA SIG P229R at the very first class I taught after forming my company.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/2171/comment-page-1#comment-3263</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 04:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haji, is it?  I&#039;m not hiding behind a screen name, though I appreciate the warning.  I am careful when generalizing, and your comments have clearly put you in the category of &quot;This is starting to sound like...&quot;  
It is possible that I&#039;m wrong, it&#039;s happened before and will happen again.  At least I&#039;m aware of that.  In this case though, the only mistake I made was arguing a stupid point with a nameless person who appears unqualified for the discussion.  My mistake, I&#039;ll try not to let it happen again.
Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haji, is it?  I&#8217;m not hiding behind a screen name, though I appreciate the warning.  I am careful when generalizing, and your comments have clearly put you in the category of &#8220;This is starting to sound like&#8230;&#8221;<br />
It is possible that I&#8217;m wrong, it&#8217;s happened before and will happen again.  At least I&#8217;m aware of that.  In this case though, the only mistake I made was arguing a stupid point with a nameless person who appears unqualified for the discussion.  My mistake, I&#8217;ll try not to let it happen again.<br />
Simon</p>
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		<title>By: Haji</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/2171/comment-page-1#comment-3262</link>
		<dc:creator>Haji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I only own one revolver, all the guns I have use magazines. Careful generalizing about people you don&#039;t know, Simon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I only own one revolver, all the guns I have use magazines. Careful generalizing about people you don&#8217;t know, Simon.</p>
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