P30 Update

20-Feb-10 – 14:59 by ToddG

A regular P30 Thursday will be coming along next week, but after yesterday’s trip to the range it seemed appropriate to give a little update. While the P30 was carried and even saw some dry fire over the unplanned 3-week holiday, yesterday was the first live fire since I returned from January’s Aim Fast, Hit Fast in Memphis.

Firing 2,002 rounds in one day may have been overdoing it, though, I’ve got to admit. Luckily, half a dozen folks at the range helped out, shooting a mag (or six) each over the course of the day.

The pistol was not cleaned prior to the shooting, though it was disassembled to replace the parts that were supposed to get changed out at the 75,000 mark:

  • extractor
  • extractor spring and buffer
  • recoil guide rod assembly
  • sear spring
  • trigger return spring

HK sent a P30 trigger return spring, but after 15 minutes of frustration trying to get it installed, I just used a P2000 LEM spring like the ones I’ve been using since the original P30 spring broke at week 11. The P2000 LEM spring gives a better reset, anyway.

Some lubrication was added to the rails and off we went. Over 2,000 rounds in one day with no cleaning or added lubrication… it’s the first one-day 2,000 Round Challenge success I’m aware of.

There were two bobbles on the way to the finish line. First, a round of the now-notorious 124gr TMJ American Eagle Leadfree ammo failed to fire. Per the 2k Challenge rules, a clean and properly lubricated gun of another brand was located (G17) and it, too, failed to fire the round. Not wanting to surrender so easily, I put the round back in the P30 and hammered away until, on the eighth primer strike, it finally went off.

Second, a round of the same ammo had a primer blow out. The projectile stayed in the cartridge rather than flying down the barrel. However, the gun cycled normally, ejecting the full cartridge and then loading the next round. The only sign of a problem was the “snap” rather than the typical “BANG” … I recovered the bad round and didn’t even need to check the barrel because clearly it wasn’t a squib.

Early in the day I ran the F.A.S.T. as mentioned in a previous comment, with the following results:

  • 4.82 (clean): 1.56, .50 / 2.04 / .25, .25, .22
  • 5.27 (clean): 1.65, .57 / 2.43 / .21, .21, .20
  • 4.62 (clean): 1.55, .48 / 1.98 / .20, .22, .19

The second run was a huge conglomerate of little errors. I didn’t do a good press out on the first shot then failed to track the sight well for the follow-up. This not only slowed the shots but led to staring stupidly at the card during my reload instead of looking at the gun, which in turn led to a fumbled reload. Then I turned the selector a little farther toward cyclic for the 8″ circle shots and was lucky they were all in.

Another drill I’ve started doing involves hitting a 2″ circle from concealment. I give myself a 1-second exposure time on the turning target system at the NRA Range (which is actually more like 1.75 seconds total) and engage the circles at increasing distances. I’m consistently near 100% at 5yd (14 out of 15 yesterday) and do all right at 7yd (12/15 yesterday). At 10yd it all falls apart, though, with yesterday turning in an above-average 6 out of 15. It’s a simple drill, easy to set up, and I find it helps me with two key parts of the draw that I can improve upon: getting the gun up into the ready/press-out position as quickly as possible, and doing a fast but precise press-out.

From there, I go to a drill I call 26662 for reasons that will be pretty obvious. It uses the target pictured here at right (click on the small pic to get a downloadable full size .pdf version) which consists of two 2″ circles and one 6″ circle.

On the start signal, draw and fire one round at the top 2″ circle, three rounds at the 6″ circle, and then one round at the bottom 2″ circle. I do the drill from concealment at seven yards with a 3-second exposure (so about a 3.75 second par time).

I ran the drill nine times yesterday, scoring 14/18 on the 2″ dots and 26/27 on the big dot. The biggest challenge is exercising the discipline to break the first shot properly without rushing to get over to the 6″ circle… a challenge I failed four out of nine times apparently.

The P30 has 79,394 rounds through it so far and we’re still on track to hit 100,000 in a year. We’re got until 30-April to make it happen.

Train hard & stay safe! ToddG

Previous P30 Endurance Test posts at pistol-training.com:

  1. 10 Responses to “P30 Update”

  2. Keeps plugging along, you tired of shooting it yet?

    By practicalgunreview on Feb 20, 2010

  3. Genuinely not. If HK wanted to go to 200,000 in two years, I’d sign on in a heartbeat. Except for the idiotic trigger return spring installation procedure — for which, I still believe, someone should die — there’s just nothing to criticize about this gun. It carries and conceals well, shoots great, and has proven to be more reliable and durable than anyone should expect a man-made device to be.

    I’m excited about the next endurance test we’ll be doing, but it’s hard to imagine a gun that meets my personal needs & wants like the P30 LEM has.

    By ToddG on Feb 20, 2010

  4. Reading all of the P30 posts is making me consider trading in the USP Compact for the P30. Any thoughts on how they compare?

    By Lance on Feb 20, 2010

  5. I love my USPc, I just wish it was LEM rather than DA/SA. I’m researching now trying to figure out how to do the conversion to LEM.

    By practicalgunreview on Feb 21, 2010

  6. Lance — I haven’t shot a USPc nearly as much as the P30, obviously. But the P30 has a lot of ergonomic advantages. If your USPc is working well for you, though, I’d probably stick with it rather than buy a new gun. For what you’ll have to pay to “upgrade” to a P30 you could probably take some classes locally and buy some practice ammo. On the other hand, if the USPc isn’t fitting you well or you struggle with some of the controls, the P30 is an obvious solution.

    pgr — Big Bore at HKPRO.com has very detailed instructions, including photos, showing exactly how to convert a USPc to LEM.

    By ToddG on Feb 21, 2010

  7. so May 1st will be the next endurance test then????????

    By Rob Engh on Feb 21, 2010

  8. RobE — May be.

    By ToddG on Feb 21, 2010

  9. I too love my USPc. But I’m issued the M&P40 and it is a lot more comfortable to shoot. That is one of the reasons the P30 seems desirable. But Todd you are right, it is a lot of money so the investment in ammo and classes, and maybe a trigger upgrade, would be the more economical route. Thanks for the response

    By Lance on Feb 21, 2010

  10. Thanks for the info on the LEM. That looks like a little more than I am confident doing right now. I’m gonna have to look for someone who has done the conversion before.
    WHATS the next endurance test gonna be??

    By practicalgunreview on Feb 21, 2010

  11. pgr — An announcement related to the next test will come in April. For now, 100% of the focus is on the P30.

    By ToddG on Feb 21, 2010

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