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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 03:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a hard drill even without the draw involved. The bottom row is tough.

One suggestion for your drill tagets would be to add a small, maybe 6 font, drill name with brief instruction to the bottom right corner of the targets, similar to the FAST target but not so big.

I find myself having to make notes on what the drill targets are used for, sequence of fire, recommended distance etc. maybe even the correct paper size. I find when I put some of these at 7 yards that surely it&#039;s a 3 yard drill and I&#039;m just remembering it incorrectly, the 3-2-1 at 7 yards is tough with a par time.

Even starting at 3 yards, adding a few yards seriously slows me down for a bit. It certainly forces you to focus on your basics, especially trigger control.

As for the next test pistol, anything but a Glock please, maybe one of the new Sig&#039;s. I don&#039;t hate Glocks but I don&#039;t expect a 100k torture test to show us anything about a Glock we didn&#039;t already know. Although it might bust that new recoil spring the Gen 4&#039;s come with if you didn&#039;t change it out every 10k.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a hard drill even without the draw involved. The bottom row is tough.</p>
<p>One suggestion for your drill tagets would be to add a small, maybe 6 font, drill name with brief instruction to the bottom right corner of the targets, similar to the FAST target but not so big.</p>
<p>I find myself having to make notes on what the drill targets are used for, sequence of fire, recommended distance etc. maybe even the correct paper size. I find when I put some of these at 7 yards that surely it&#8217;s a 3 yard drill and I&#8217;m just remembering it incorrectly, the 3-2-1 at 7 yards is tough with a par time.</p>
<p>Even starting at 3 yards, adding a few yards seriously slows me down for a bit. It certainly forces you to focus on your basics, especially trigger control.</p>
<p>As for the next test pistol, anything but a Glock please, maybe one of the new Sig&#8217;s. I don&#8217;t hate Glocks but I don&#8217;t expect a 100k torture test to show us anything about a Glock we didn&#8217;t already know. Although it might bust that new recoil spring the Gen 4&#8242;s come with if you didn&#8217;t change it out every 10k.</p>
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		<title>By: ToddG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ToddG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John -- The pistol is back at HK right now. There will be a full report for tomorrow&#039;s P30 Thursday.

GJM -- The new Heinie sights I received were aligned properly but the bases were oversized. It took quite a bit of filing to get them to fit.

There are arguments to be made for both the S and the LEM. The S gives you the benefit of a manual safety which is an advantage for both weapons retention as well as administrative handling. The LEM gives you a &quot;point and click&quot; interface. It really comes down to where your priorities are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8212; The pistol is back at HK right now. There will be a full report for tomorrow&#8217;s P30 Thursday.</p>
<p>GJM &#8212; The new Heinie sights I received were aligned properly but the bases were oversized. It took quite a bit of filing to get them to fit.</p>
<p>There are arguments to be made for both the S and the LEM. The S gives you the benefit of a manual safety which is an advantage for both weapons retention as well as administrative handling. The LEM gives you a &#8220;point and click&#8221; interface. It really comes down to where your priorities are.</p>
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		<title>By: GJM</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/2626/comment-page-1#comment-4120</link>
		<dc:creator>GJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Any update on the improved Heinie sight?

2) Just got a P30/S in .40. Decocker on the back of the slide eliminates the variant 1 problem where a 1911 shooter can de-cock or, worse, tie up the pistol by pushing down too hard on the thumb safety. The thumb safety gives a place for my thumb and solves the depressing the slide stop/no lock back issue. My SA trigger has no creep. There is also the option of de-cocking and having a heavier trigger for shoulder holster or off body carry.

Thoughts on the /S versus LEM?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Any update on the improved Heinie sight?</p>
<p>2) Just got a P30/S in .40. Decocker on the back of the slide eliminates the variant 1 problem where a 1911 shooter can de-cock or, worse, tie up the pistol by pushing down too hard on the thumb safety. The thumb safety gives a place for my thumb and solves the depressing the slide stop/no lock back issue. My SA trigger has no creep. There is also the option of de-cocking and having a heavier trigger for shoulder holster or off body carry.</p>
<p>Thoughts on the /S versus LEM?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m more curious to find out what H&amp;K says about the gun and the frame damage.  Do they want it back for any form of inspection?  Not that I&#039;m worried about my copy since 86,000 rounds is probably more than I&#039;ll EVER shoot through it in my lifetime. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m more curious to find out what H&amp;K says about the gun and the frame damage.  Do they want it back for any form of inspection?  Not that I&#8217;m worried about my copy since 86,000 rounds is probably more than I&#8217;ll EVER shoot through it in my lifetime. <img src='http://pistol-training.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ToddG</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/2626/comment-page-1#comment-4088</link>
		<dc:creator>ToddG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>XKL -- There are only two ways to add time components to your shooting practice.

(1) A shot timer. Every serious shooter needs a shot timer. This is non-negotiable. You can use your timer in both live and dry fire practice.

(2) Timed (&quot;turning&quot;) targets. If you have access to a facility that can provide appearing/disappearing targets based on a time you set, there are a lot of things you can accomplish. In some ways, it&#039;s better than having a shot timer because you learn to engage a threat until it disappears. Rather than seeing how fast you can fire five rounds, you see how many rounds you can put on a target before it falls/turns. However, most timed target systems can only do full-second intervals so learning to shave tenths of a second off your draw, reload, etc. becomes harder to manage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>XKL &#8212; There are only two ways to add time components to your shooting practice.</p>
<p>(1) A shot timer. Every serious shooter needs a shot timer. This is non-negotiable. You can use your timer in both live and dry fire practice.</p>
<p>(2) Timed (&#8220;turning&#8221;) targets. If you have access to a facility that can provide appearing/disappearing targets based on a time you set, there are a lot of things you can accomplish. In some ways, it&#8217;s better than having a shot timer because you learn to engage a threat until it disappears. Rather than seeing how fast you can fire five rounds, you see how many rounds you can put on a target before it falls/turns. However, most timed target systems can only do full-second intervals so learning to shave tenths of a second off your draw, reload, etc. becomes harder to manage.</p>
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		<title>By: XKL</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/2626/comment-page-1#comment-4078</link>
		<dc:creator>XKL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Todd, here&#039;s a suggestion for a future post: can you provide some advice on how to introduce timing into one&#039;s practice.  I can&#039;t figure out how a shooter would apply these PAR values you mention--without a specialized shooting timer and a partner.  Are those prerequisites or are there other methods?  Thanks for advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Todd, here&#8217;s a suggestion for a future post: can you provide some advice on how to introduce timing into one&#8217;s practice.  I can&#8217;t figure out how a shooter would apply these PAR values you mention&#8211;without a specialized shooting timer and a partner.  Are those prerequisites or are there other methods?  Thanks for advice.</p>
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		<title>By: ToddG</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/2626/comment-page-1#comment-4077</link>
		<dc:creator>ToddG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 05:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MBrook -- A little of both. I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever actually tried to clean the outside of the gun, now that you mention it...

Thanks for the great drill suggestions, guys. Keep &#039;em coming!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MBrook &#8212; A little of both. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever actually tried to clean the outside of the gun, now that you mention it&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for the great drill suggestions, guys. Keep &#8216;em coming!</p>
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		<title>By: MBrook</title>
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		<dc:creator>MBrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you can hardly read the date code on the frame.  Is it just covered in carbon or is it actually worn away?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you can hardly read the date code on the frame.  Is it just covered in carbon or is it actually worn away?</p>
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		<title>By: sirhcton</title>
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		<dc:creator>sirhcton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Progressive Press-out or Press-out Progression (to emphasize the main point)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Progressive Press-out or Press-out Progression (to emphasize the main point)</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perfect Number Drill?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfect Number Drill?</p>
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