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		<title>By: David Marlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Marlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read and heard about seeing the front sight lift, but I don&#039;t understand how to do it.  Maybe I&#039;m looking too much into it, but when a shooter does this, is he/she actually trying to keep visual focus on the front sight throughout the recoil and back onto target, or is the point just to see the movement of the sight?  This a great topic because I&#039;m trying desperately to find a way to speed up my shooting and it feels like I&#039;ve hit a plateau.  Lowering my split times while maintaining good accuracy is something that&#039;s eluding me right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read and heard about seeing the front sight lift, but I don&#8217;t understand how to do it.  Maybe I&#8217;m looking too much into it, but when a shooter does this, is he/she actually trying to keep visual focus on the front sight throughout the recoil and back onto target, or is the point just to see the movement of the sight?  This a great topic because I&#8217;m trying desperately to find a way to speed up my shooting and it feels like I&#8217;ve hit a plateau.  Lowering my split times while maintaining good accuracy is something that&#8217;s eluding me right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curtis K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 17:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, this sounds like a great way of mechanically insuring follow-through! I&#039;ve always thought of follow-through in pistol shooting in terms of follow-through in a golf swing. 

In golf, follow-through means you complete the swing properly despite hitting the ball, you don&#039;t alter your stance or swing before, during, or after contact with the ball. You certainly don&#039;t look up to see where the ball went; that&#039;s your caddy&#039;s job ^_^

Just like in shooting, if you don&#039;t follow-through in a golf swing, you&#039;ll probably affect the trajectory of the projectile in one way or another.

The Epiphany of The Front Sight improved my shooting 100%. The Epiphany of The Swing Follow-through did the same for my golf game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, this sounds like a great way of mechanically insuring follow-through! I&#8217;ve always thought of follow-through in pistol shooting in terms of follow-through in a golf swing. </p>
<p>In golf, follow-through means you complete the swing properly despite hitting the ball, you don&#8217;t alter your stance or swing before, during, or after contact with the ball. You certainly don&#8217;t look up to see where the ball went; that&#8217;s your caddy&#8217;s job ^_^</p>
<p>Just like in shooting, if you don&#8217;t follow-through in a golf swing, you&#8217;ll probably affect the trajectory of the projectile in one way or another.</p>
<p>The Epiphany of The Front Sight improved my shooting 100%. The Epiphany of The Swing Follow-through did the same for my golf game.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 22:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post! I learned something, thank you!</description>
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		<title>By: Lincoln R. Carr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lincoln R. Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 22:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd,

I don&#039;t disagree with you.  Thinking how I&#039;ve coached people who were relaxing too soon, I have explained to them what they were doing and then have admonished them later to stay on the sights, implying both keeping track of the sights in recoil and not being in a hurry to relax or reholster.  

Telling someone to reacquire a sight picture after the last shot is among the techniques that one uses to help a less experienced shooter along, expecting that they will overcome their need for the technique as they progress.  It&#039;s like telling a beginner always to use a hard front sight focus, knowing that other types of sight pictures are acceptable--preferable in some situations.  Another analog is telling a beginner always to maintain contact with the trigger, knowing that some advanced shooters lose contact with the trigger when shooting very fast.

This brings up an interesting question:  is it always best to teach people to shoot the way that the best shooters shoot?  Think of Jelly Bryce teaching FBI agents in training.  He attempts to teach them to shoot the way that he does, which is largely point shooting based upon physical abilities that are so far beyond the normal that they are almost beyond belief and years of practice that almost no one else will replicate.  The agents might be better served by sighted fire that doesn&#039;t require as much talent and practice.  This is the type of argument made by Fairbairn, who insisted that his shooting technique was the best way to teach someone when only a very short period for training, perhaps a day, was available.

I&#039;ve always taught people to use the best techniques of which I know, never dumbing it down.  However, I realize that, if they don&#039;t practice, they&#039;d be better off with a club.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t disagree with you.  Thinking how I&#8217;ve coached people who were relaxing too soon, I have explained to them what they were doing and then have admonished them later to stay on the sights, implying both keeping track of the sights in recoil and not being in a hurry to relax or reholster.  </p>
<p>Telling someone to reacquire a sight picture after the last shot is among the techniques that one uses to help a less experienced shooter along, expecting that they will overcome their need for the technique as they progress.  It&#8217;s like telling a beginner always to use a hard front sight focus, knowing that other types of sight pictures are acceptable&#8211;preferable in some situations.  Another analog is telling a beginner always to maintain contact with the trigger, knowing that some advanced shooters lose contact with the trigger when shooting very fast.</p>
<p>This brings up an interesting question:  is it always best to teach people to shoot the way that the best shooters shoot?  Think of Jelly Bryce teaching FBI agents in training.  He attempts to teach them to shoot the way that he does, which is largely point shooting based upon physical abilities that are so far beyond the normal that they are almost beyond belief and years of practice that almost no one else will replicate.  The agents might be better served by sighted fire that doesn&#8217;t require as much talent and practice.  This is the type of argument made by Fairbairn, who insisted that his shooting technique was the best way to teach someone when only a very short period for training, perhaps a day, was available.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always taught people to use the best techniques of which I know, never dumbing it down.  However, I realize that, if they don&#8217;t practice, they&#8217;d be better off with a club.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Wong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 18:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It just occurred to me - teaching a student to &quot;watch the front sight lift&quot; is a great way to de-program them out of a &quot;flinch&quot; or &quot;pre-ignition push&quot; by encouraging/habituating them to see the front sight move UP, rather than down and away in the classic &quot;7-o&#039;clock flinch.&quot;

On the flip-side, teaching *RECOVERY* by encouraging/habituating a student to look for/re-acquire their sight picture is also a good way to de-program them away from an exaggerated muzzle rise, as seen in certain bad action/western movies and in some shooters habituated to &quot;allowing the gun to rise in recoil&quot;(slow-fire bulls-eye) rather than managing recoil effectively to quickly regain a sight picture for rapid multiple shots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just occurred to me &#8211; teaching a student to &#8220;watch the front sight lift&#8221; is a great way to de-program them out of a &#8220;flinch&#8221; or &#8220;pre-ignition push&#8221; by encouraging/habituating them to see the front sight move UP, rather than down and away in the classic &#8220;7-o&#8217;clock flinch.&#8221;</p>
<p>On the flip-side, teaching *RECOVERY* by encouraging/habituating a student to look for/re-acquire their sight picture is also a good way to de-program them away from an exaggerated muzzle rise, as seen in certain bad action/western movies and in some shooters habituated to &#8220;allowing the gun to rise in recoil&#8221;(slow-fire bulls-eye) rather than managing recoil effectively to quickly regain a sight picture for rapid multiple shots.</p>
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		<title>By: T.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 17:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m reminded of how I was taught to hit a golf ball accurately.  Focus on the ball and don&#039;t take your eyes off it until you are conscious if it not being there anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reminded of how I was taught to hit a golf ball accurately.  Focus on the ball and don&#8217;t take your eyes off it until you are conscious if it not being there anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 13:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any competitive shooter will agree with Todd - the days that you can see your front sight lift on every shot are the days that you win matches and set personal records.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any competitive shooter will agree with Todd &#8211; the days that you can see your front sight lift on every shot are the days that you win matches and set personal records.</p>
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		<title>By: ToddG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ToddG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 05:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lincoln -- I understand where you&#039;re coming from, but in my experience the same benefit can be gained by telling a student to watch the front sight lift. I&#039;d much rather teach someone the right way than have them perform some (possibly) unnecessary step. That becomes especially true when we start talking about moving beyond one shot, one target engagements.

I don&#039;t want to teach someone that if he fires six shots, he only really &quot;follows through&quot; on the last one.

When we begin to talk about multiple targets, I don&#039;t want a student to think that he only follows through on the last target. But neither do I want him needlessly bringing his pistol down to get an unnecessary sight picture on the first target when it&#039;s time to move to the second.

&quot;Front sight lift&quot; is a consistent method and has the added benefits mentioned above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lincoln &#8212; I understand where you&#8217;re coming from, but in my experience the same benefit can be gained by telling a student to watch the front sight lift. I&#8217;d much rather teach someone the right way than have them perform some (possibly) unnecessary step. That becomes especially true when we start talking about moving beyond one shot, one target engagements.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to teach someone that if he fires six shots, he only really &#8220;follows through&#8221; on the last one.</p>
<p>When we begin to talk about multiple targets, I don&#8217;t want a student to think that he only follows through on the last target. But neither do I want him needlessly bringing his pistol down to get an unnecessary sight picture on the first target when it&#8217;s time to move to the second.</p>
<p>&#8220;Front sight lift&#8221; is a consistent method and has the added benefits mentioned above.</p>
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		<title>By: rob engh</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob engh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 04:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still remember the first time I actually saw the front sight lift during practice, and the first time it happened at a match too. Very enlightening moment. It&#039;s funny that it took me so long to understand what it actually means to &quot;see&quot; the front sight. 
 oh god, it&#039;s like an Avatar moment, &quot;I, SEE you&quot;.

someone shoot me, quick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still remember the first time I actually saw the front sight lift during practice, and the first time it happened at a match too. Very enlightening moment. It&#8217;s funny that it took me so long to understand what it actually means to &#8220;see&#8221; the front sight.<br />
 oh god, it&#8217;s like an Avatar moment, &#8220;I, SEE you&#8221;.</p>
<p>someone shoot me, quick.</p>
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		<title>By: Lincoln R. Carr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lincoln R. Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 02:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd,

I think there is a confusion here between defining follow through and a method for teaching people to follow through well.  Some shooters, when they consciously or subconsciously know that it&#039;s the last shot of a string, relax before the bullet leaves the barrel.  Telling them always to get an additional sight picture forces them to maintain muscle tension in their arms, etc., for the last shot.

I understand and agree completely with what you say about calling the shot and seeing the sight lift to guarantee good follow through.  However, new shooters can be taught to get a second sight picture before they master keeping their eyes open and tracking sights in recoil, helping them to follow through well from the get-go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd,</p>
<p>I think there is a confusion here between defining follow through and a method for teaching people to follow through well.  Some shooters, when they consciously or subconsciously know that it&#8217;s the last shot of a string, relax before the bullet leaves the barrel.  Telling them always to get an additional sight picture forces them to maintain muscle tension in their arms, etc., for the last shot.</p>
<p>I understand and agree completely with what you say about calling the shot and seeing the sight lift to guarantee good follow through.  However, new shooters can be taught to get a second sight picture before they master keeping their eyes open and tracking sights in recoil, helping them to follow through well from the get-go.</p>
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