HK45 Endurance Test: Week Eighteen

11-Aug-10 – 11:39 by ToddG

23,905 rounds

0 stoppages 0 malfunctions 0 parts breakages

Apologies to anyone who guessed lower than 23,905 on the When Will It Stop? contest, but we’ve gone another week without incident.

Over the past week I’ve put a lot of effort into using the NRA HQ Range’s new target system to establish some baseline par times for various basic skills. Unfortunately, due to a software issue the timers, for now, have a lowest setting of 1.2 seconds. This has made it impossible to work on certain things I’d like (such as one-shot draws) under time pressure.

But plenty of other skills have been easier to establish. For example, I can pretty consistently get two hits on an 8″ at 7yd in 1.3 seconds, from concealment. Sometimes I’m able to break a third shot but not with any kind of guaranteed accuracy. So one goal I’m setting is three hits in 1.4 seconds. I’m definitely not there yet. A goal like that forces you to work on your drawstroke, ¬†your press-out, and (to a lesser extent) your aimed splits.

Another goal is 1-R-2 from concealment draw in 3 seconds or less. I’ve hit that time before, just not consistently. I’ve even pulled off some in the 2.6-2.7 range, but can’t really say I was in visual control of the gun when it happened. (i.e., I got lucky)

And in the No Department: 1.5 second concealment draw to a 4″ circle at 25yd scored me one hit out of 10. Applying some of my hard won highly sought after professional firearms instructor diagnosis, I have come to the determination that I can’t do that yet. I was keeping them all inside the head of an IALEFI Q target, which of course with the massively powerful .45 means I still would have killed the target, his family, his dog, and most of his neighbors. But since the goal was hitting a 4″ circle, that’s a Fail.

From a day to day carry standpoint, the HK45 continues to work out just fine. It’s definitely a big gun, and I’m the first to admit it’s not as comfortable for very long drives, etc., as the smaller P30. Concealing it effectively just isn’t all that hard, though. Yesterday I took the new puppy to a playground to be around small children, and none of the soccer moms noticed anything out of the ordinary even with all the bending over and scrambling around on the ground. The Garrity In-Victus continues to work very well.

The most compromising part of the CCW package is the spare magazines. Even in the great Custom Carry Concepts BMC, the huge HK45 mags can print. In fact, I’ve gone from carrying two spare magazines to carrying just one, specifically due to comfort & concealability. I can manage two, but one is just much more workable day in and day out. And since it’s a .45, I really won’t need more than one round to take out an entire gang of attackers, right?

The HK45 should be getting a fair bit of range time before next week’s report, including a full day on an open range with some buddies. We’ll far surpass the 25,000 round point. So, next week expect the promised P30/HK45 Comparison. And expect anyone who guessed less than about 27,000 rounds on the When Will It Stop? contest to get a disappointing round count update.

Train hard & stay safe! ToddG

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  1. 10 Responses to “HK45 Endurance Test: Week Eighteen”

  2. I suspect there are many of us for which a 1.2 second minimum would be plenty low to establish time-pressure for a draw.

    By ZK on Aug 11, 2010

  3. lThe Soccer moms might not realize it was the gun they saw.

    By faksen on Aug 11, 2010

  4. The Alabama Holster Company has an IWB Kydex mag pouch at 25 ish that is well executed
    and tolerable with my build. 6’2” 210ish, 34
    waist (I buy 36 pants) 34 inseam. The mag simply disapears. While certainly not a comfortable of the CCC, it is certainly more concealable.

    By dojpros on Aug 11, 2010

  5. I actually played a 20-minute mini soccer game with HK45 on me less than a month ago. Someone complained about hitting something hard (cocked and locked hammer) at my waist level but nobody thought I was carrying a big gun and playing soccer :)

    By x-man on Aug 11, 2010

  6. so what was the most responded to thread dude?

    By Rob Engh on Aug 11, 2010

  7. Good evening Todd,

    Great to read what you’re working on. Those are very impressive times/targets and goals. Good luck working on them. I’ll keep working on my much slower times. Must keep practicing and practicing……………..

    By Christian on Aug 11, 2010

  8. All I can say is WOW! I would not of ever guessed almost 24K rounds and no stoppages. I am feeling the urge to get one.

    By Regularguy on Aug 11, 2010

  9. Rob — The software doesn’t make it easy to track, but the “When Will It Stop?” post now has 193 comments, which I think is the highest ever. Previously, it was 191 for the contest to guess which pistol would be the 2010 test gun.

    By ToddG on Aug 12, 2010

  10. Todd — There are a couple of WP plugins that make it easier to track posts with the largest number of comments: Most Commented Widget and Most Comments.

    By Tom Jones on Aug 12, 2010

  11. So, Todd…. what are your thoughts on the Slipstream so far? After a couple applications in some of my guns – I’ve never had to lube them since.

    By George Hill on Aug 12, 2010

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