HK45 Endurance Test: Week Thirty Six

14-Dec-10 – 15:42 by ToddG

49,990 rounds

1 stoppages 1 (*) malfunctions 1 parts breakages

That’s right, folks. Just ten rounds to go! Basically, it’s all over but the cryin’ (and the photography set up for the 50,000th round).

This last week with the HK45 has actually been a lot of fun. I spent a full day at the range with some buddies putting 1,000 rounds through the gun in near-freezing weather. The gun hadn’t been cleaned or even lubed in quite a while but ran like a champ… as I’ve come to expect.

Yesterday I shot my last HK45 F.A.S.T. drill:

  • 4.62 (clean): 1.58, .56 / 1.89 / .21, .19, .19

I’m satisfied going out on that note.

Yesterday was also my chance to get in the long-awaited accuracy testing of the gun now that it is (essentially) at the end of the test. Ammo used was all match grade ASYM Precision. Results, even through the dirty HK45, were spectacular.

The 230gr FMJ Match averaged 1.95″ 5-shot groups from a sandbag at 25yd. The best group of five, however, was this amazing 1.26″. If you only see four bullet holes, don’t feel bad. I only see four, as well. But there were no other marks on the paper and no bullet holes in the huge cardboard backer. So either the fifth round missed by more than a foot or it’s in there… somewhere.

The 185gr National Match Target JHP, however, was the really amazing one to shoot. Rated at just 775fps, it wouldn’t make Major in USPSA or be suitable for IDPA CDP. But it was literally like shooting a .22… a big, heavy, laserbeam accurate .22 out of an HK45. I was sorely tempted to run another F.A.S.T. drill with it just to see how things would shake out. Groups averaged 1.85″ with the best being this 1.39″:

(thanks to Stan Chen of ASYM Precision for sending the ammo to test … I think we can all agree that next year’s test gun should be a purpose built Stan Chen Customs 1911 shooting nothing but match grade ASYM ammo, right? If you’re reading this, Stan, I’d like it in 9mm please. Night sights. Trigger pull in the 4.5-5# range. And 26.2lpi checkering just to be different. But if you have to use 26.0 that would be good enough, I suppose.)

Next week’s update will include shots of the 50,000th round (have you entered the contest to guess when the last shot will be fired?) as well as a full review of the HK45 and what it’s been like to live with one over the past nine months. Shortly after that, you’ll see the promised result from the Vickers/Hackathorn HK45 interview I conducted a few weeks back. So there is still plenty of HK45 goodness to come!

Train hard & stay safe! ToddG

Previous HK45 Endurance Test posts at pistol-training.com:

  • Week Thirty Four
  • Week Thirty Three
  • Week Thirty One
  • Week Thirty
  • Week Twenty Nine
  • Week Twenty Eight
  • Week Twenty Seven
  • Week Twenty Six
  • Week Twenty Five
  • Week Twenty Four
  • Week Twenty Three
  • Week Twenty Two
  • Week Twenty One
  • Week Twenty
  • Week Nineteen
  • Week Eighteen
  • Week Seventeen
  • Week Sixteen
  • Week Fifteen
  • Week Fourteen
  • Week Thirteen
  • Week Twelve
  • Week Ten
  • Week Nine
  • Week Eight
  • Week Seven
  • Week Six
  • Week Five
  • Week Four
  • Week Three
  • Week Two
  • Week One
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    1. 24 Responses to “HK45 Endurance Test: Week Thirty Six”

    2. The bottom hole in the upper right group looks like it might be a double.

      By joshs on Dec 14, 2010

    3. I’d love to see a Stan Chen Custom tested!!!

      By Shenaniguns on Dec 14, 2010

    4. Very impressive reliability. Todd, what gun are you going to carry for CHL after the test is over? Will you stick with the HK?

      By Magnus on Dec 14, 2010

    5. I’m back to the HK P30 until next year’s test.

      By ToddG on Dec 14, 2010

    6. 1911’s in 9mm are sweet shooters. I would recommend a 4.25″ version, easier to carry and the reduced slide weight will help it run better.

      By Kirk on Dec 14, 2010

    7. Todd hk45 awesome reliability and durability..todd in your own honest opinion who has the edge in reliability and durability betweenhk p30 or the hk45? Thanks todd

      By dj on Dec 14, 2010

    8. Well if the 50,000 round has yet to be fired, I’m out. I guess this past weekend would have been the time frame for it.
      You gonna clean it before the final test run dude?

      By Rob E on Dec 15, 2010

    9. what about the people that guessed in the begining that it wouldnt fail and would go the entire test without a failure?

      By msb on Dec 15, 2010

    10. If you get Stan to build you a 1911, put in a good word for me too………I don’t need another 1911, but I don’t “need” 80% of what is in the safe either.

      By Sean on Dec 15, 2010

    11. Todd,
      I’d really like to see you do this with a 1911 .45. I’m not 1911 proponent anymore (used to drink the Kool-Aide – moved on), just think it would be really interesting to see how a high quality 1911 would hold up. That could be really usefull reading for folks deciding on a platform, especially comparing to your other test guns.
      You’re wrists could probably use a rest though!

      Would also like to see this for a Gen 3 G19, and M&P45 midsize.

      By James B on Dec 15, 2010

    12. G19 Gen IV is what I want to see next.

      By Rob Engh on Dec 15, 2010

    13. SR40

      By David on Dec 15, 2010

    14. Even though I’m a confirmed M&P fanboy, I think I’d like to see a 50,000-round test of a 1911 as well… a Smith & Wesson 1911 to be exact.

      By MichaelD on Dec 15, 2010

    15. I’d love to see a modern 1911 run hard to destruction. I doubt anyone would sponsor it though.

      By ZK on Dec 15, 2010

    16. Todd,

      Did you put the o-ring back on for the accuracy test or go without?

      By Zack H on Dec 16, 2010

    17. Guys — the Stan Chen thing was just a joke because I knew Stan would read it. 8)

      I am not doing another .45 any time soon. By “any time soon” I mean “ever.”

      Zack — Yes, o-ring was replaced.

      By ToddG on Dec 16, 2010

    18. G19 4th Generation should be the next test. So many problems have been reported we need to see an independent test if its really as good as you say.

      By Zac on Dec 17, 2010

    19. I’ve read over both the HK45 and P30 tests carefully as these are the 2 guns I’m most interested in as a first time purchaser. Of the two, which would you recommend to a advanced novice for putting holes in paper and for home defense? I really like the HK45, but understand it’s a lot more expensive to shoot.

      I guess what I’m really wondering, is the HK45 an upgrade to a P30, or basically a P30 that shoots .45?

      Thanks all!
      Great site. Love all the info to be found here.

      By Jeff on Dec 17, 2010

    20. I’m not Todd, but my advice would be to buy the pistol that lets you train the most. The HK45 is a superb firearm without question…but most will probably find that the P30 is more practical. It’s easier for most people to conceal and it is cheaper to feed. The magazines for it aren’t as expensive as for the HK45.

      The ability to get out and train with the weapon is of critical importance, especially if you are new. Stick to the option that lets you get the most bang for your training dollar.

      By TCinVA on Dec 17, 2010

    21. Jeff — The question I would ask is, “What does the HK45 do for you that the P30 doesn’t?

      All else being equal, my advice echoes TCinVA’s. The P30 is cheaper to feed. Bigger holes won’t do anything for you when punching paper. Given the quality engineering behind modern premium JHP ammunition, most folks would agree that the .45 won’t do much more for you than a 9mm in a self-defense situation, either.

      I would not say that the HK45 is an upgrade to the P30. They’re both at the pinnacle of modern handgun design.

      By ToddG on Dec 17, 2010

    22. ToddG have you shot either the p30l or the p2000?If so are there any differences between them and the p30 in the way they shoot?

      Also I’d read you had some warren sights you were testing, is there any news in terms of availability of those?

      By Chris on Dec 17, 2010

    23. I have to say, if I was going to get a .45 the HK would be my pick. I’d love to get my hands on a Canadian Legal P30 (do they make a longer slide version?)

      By Rob Engh on Dec 17, 2010

    24. Thanks very much guys, that’s the advice I was expecting.

      By JeffM on Dec 18, 2010

    25. The HK45 tested was it American made or German I have been told there is a difference between the two in Quality ,the German version being better.

      By charles grumbling on Dec 24, 2010

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