Glock 17 gen4 Endurance Test: Week 22

19-Aug-11 – 17:48 by ToddG

32,958 rounds 7 stoppages
(+1 w/non-LCI extractor)
0 malfunctions 0 parts breakages

That’s right… pistol-training.com has gone multicam! In fact, I’ve been wearing the gun in that holster for the past six months, but it’s impossible to see so no one noticed.

OK, maybe not. The holster, however, is completely legit. It’s a Safariland 6354 specially built for one of Safariland’s government cutomers. The hump near the ejection port is for the optional mini red dot optic but the holster is equally secure with or without it. Here are some more pictures where you’ll never be able to find the gun thanks to the magic of multicam:

All joking aside, this is an exceptional holster that makes use of Safariland’s innovative QLS mounting system allowing the holster body to go from thigh rig to belt rig to chest rig in, literally, a snap. It also features the patented ALS retention system which is so fast, we give you a penalty of half a second on your F.A.S.T. score if you use one of these holsters… seriously.

Now if only they’d make me one in orange.

Sadly, the 6354 is on temporary loan and will soon be in the hands of someone who actually has a legitimate reason to be wearing a multicam uniform.

Another holster I received from Safariland is their Model 27. Much to my surprise, the highly adjustable 27 is actually doing a decent job as an aiwb holster. For such a simple design, it conceals the gun very well. As you can see from the photo at left, it rides at a good height but still pulls the butt of the gun into the body. Comfort is also very good, in part due to the fact that the holster’s j-hook cants slightly when seated. Of course, the flipside is that the holster’s cant changes as you sit, stand, run, jump, and perform your mandatory ninja-spetznaz somersaults. That compromises the speed of the draw somewhat. And like any j-hook holster, it is not as effective in a weapons retention situation. The easier a holster comes off on purpose, the easier it will come off when you don’t want it to, too. Still, I’ve made a commitment to use the holster for the next week and will probably even run it in next weekend’s Aim Fast, Hit Fast class in Albuquerque. But it’s not as good at hiding in the woods:

As for the pistol, it ran fine during two sessions for a total of almost nine hours and 1,252 rounds this week. The Grip Force Adapter and Trijicon HD sights continue to deliver great results, including this F.A.S.T. last Saturday in Culpeper:

  • 4.23 (clean): 1.45, .42 / 1.81 / .19, .18, .18

That’s my best run yet with the Glock 17, and 0.15 seconds behind my personal best (shot with the P30). Ammo was American Eagle 115gr FMJ. Holster was a CCC Shaggy, mag pouch was a CCC BMC, belt was a Wilderness Frequent Flyer.

(editor’s note: no it wasn’t… I shot a 4.22 in March)

Next week will most likely be only a short update with just one practice session, but hopefully some more feedback on the Safariland 27 as an aiwb holster.

Train hard & stay safe! ToddG

Previous Glock 17 gen4 Endurance Test posts at pistol-training.com:

  1. 22 Responses to “Glock 17 gen4 Endurance Test: Week 22”

  2. That 6354 is badass!

    Do you always wear your belt buckle on your side like that? Or is that an AIWB secret that you can’t talk about with us lowly peasants who choose to wear our holsters at 3 o’clock?

    By F-Trooper05 on Aug 19, 2011

  3. F-T, it’s purely an aiwb thing. If you wear the buckle at 12, you get a double thickness of belt trying to go through the holster’s loop.

    By ToddG on Aug 19, 2011

  4. Todd,

    How you liking the drop leg adapter set-up? I have been wearing my 6325 ALS holster on one in-conjunction with the QLS for the past couple of months and I couldn’t be happier.

    By Nick Drakulich on Aug 19, 2011

  5. Count Drakulich — What little I’ve played with it, I’d say it seems totally good to go. Given some of the folks using it OCONUS I’m willing to take it on faith at this point…

    By ToddG on Aug 19, 2011

  6. The rainbow typing. Classic.

    By Josh on Aug 19, 2011

  7. The #27 is a good holster for a very affordable price tag. It´s serving me well for a long time.

    By frank b on Aug 19, 2011

  8. That QLS system is very impressive.

    By Jesse on Aug 19, 2011

  9. See you got a present from the Delta Force Procurement Department?

    By John P. on Aug 20, 2011

  10. Thanks for letting folks get a glimpse of the Safariland 6354–this has been needed for a long time now.

    I am also glad to see Todd giving the Model 27 a try–a lot of guys here run them with good success.

    By DocGKR on Aug 20, 2011

  11. what’s scary is how well multicam:
    works that thing actually does get a bit hard to see against the bushes and woodpile

    By Rob Engh on Aug 20, 2011

  12. sigh, my post failed.

    By Rob Engh on Aug 20, 2011

  13. Multicam seems to be where its at, a good medium for all camo’s… ACU OTOH seems to work best if you ever find yourself in combat inside a shopping mall or a factory that makes ACU colored garments.

    By John P. on Aug 20, 2011

  14. The hump near the ejection port is for the optional mini red dot optic

    So, is this Gov agency going to run red dots? BTW, is that a first for an agency? (Not counting rifles, of course)

    By Les on Aug 20, 2011

  15. RDS sights have been in use for a while now…

    A decade or so ago, Don Lazzarini mounted Dr. Optics on some of the SWAT team pistols at his agency…

    By DocGKR on Aug 20, 2011

  16. will the safariland 6354 take a glock with a trij RMR? Also, is this available to the public?!?!?!

    By dickmadison on Aug 21, 2011

  17. A decade or so ago, Don Lazzarini mounted Dr. Optics on some of the SWAT team pistols at his agency…

    Didn’t know that…

    By Les on Aug 21, 2011

  18. I am looking for a model number of that holster in black left handed for a duty holster if there is a chance its going to be a stock holster….

    This is going to cost me a kidney…

    By Will on Aug 22, 2011

  19. Hey Tod I got kind of confused while reading through all the “weeks” what did you change to get your gun running smooth? I just bought a Gen 4 34 and it is shooting spent cases in to my head along with having malfunctions.

    By Tony on Aug 28, 2011

  20. Does that Safariland 27 have a sweat shield that covers the slide against the body? Can’t really tell from photos I’ve seen.

    By Dan on Aug 31, 2011

  21. Dan,
    Yes it does but only minimally so. It’s not so much the slide that will get you with the #27 as it is the rear sight. This is exacerbated greatly if you are ‘tactically padded’.

    I’m generally not much for AIWB but it makes great sense for me while working. I do a lot of driving, walking and bending and I’ve carried a G26 without issue for six months.

    By Nate on Sep 1, 2011

  22. Re: buckle positioning…

    Can’t you just run the belt the other way, so the tongue is on the left?

    By Jac on Sep 2, 2011

  23. I’ve been a huge fan of the Safariland 27 as well. I Gorilla Glued a piece of leather on the J-hook in order to keep in from sliding down on the belt. I love the non-rigid bottom. It makes AIWB quite a bit more comfortable.
    Jon

    By JJN on Oct 21, 2011

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