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		<title>By: remat</title>
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		<dc:creator>remat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 05:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
Was there an update to this? Can&#039;t seem to find it. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
Was there an update to this? Can&#8217;t seem to find it. <img src='http://pistol-training.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bob Bonenfant</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/985/comment-page-1#comment-1439</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Bonenfant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>60K+ rounds gives me a gun that I will be shooting when I am 110....great and I probably will need a nurse to hold the gun for me.  In any event I love my M&amp;P 9MM.  Simple to operate, very accurate and it loves my reloads.  What else is there.  did I forget it is made in the US which helps with the balance of payments and all the economic stuff floating around these days.

Take Care

Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>60K+ rounds gives me a gun that I will be shooting when I am 110&#8230;.great and I probably will need a nurse to hold the gun for me.  In any event I love my M&amp;P 9MM.  Simple to operate, very accurate and it loves my reloads.  What else is there.  did I forget it is made in the US which helps with the balance of payments and all the economic stuff floating around these days.</p>
<p>Take Care</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all thanks for a great website for useful information. I bought an M&amp;P40 when they first came out and have maybe put 1k rounds through it. I like to shoot but time and money hold me back. I guess the fact that I bought an M&amp;P15, S&amp;W9VE and PC4006 cut back on my shooting just the M&amp;P40. I don&#039;t know if I would ever shoot over 60k rounds through one gun. After reading the testing of the M&amp;P it sure makes me want to get mine out and start putting rounds through it. I don&#039;t mind the stock trigger but it would be nice to get it smoothed up and maybe lightened abit. I&#039;ve read Burwell and Bowie both do fantastic work and can get the trigger to about whatever pull-weight you want. How about S&amp;W? I never hear about their trigger work. Anyone have any comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all thanks for a great website for useful information. I bought an M&amp;P40 when they first came out and have maybe put 1k rounds through it. I like to shoot but time and money hold me back. I guess the fact that I bought an M&amp;P15, S&amp;W9VE and PC4006 cut back on my shooting just the M&amp;P40. I don&#8217;t know if I would ever shoot over 60k rounds through one gun. After reading the testing of the M&amp;P it sure makes me want to get mine out and start putting rounds through it. I don&#8217;t mind the stock trigger but it would be nice to get it smoothed up and maybe lightened abit. I&#8217;ve read Burwell and Bowie both do fantastic work and can get the trigger to about whatever pull-weight you want. How about S&amp;W? I never hear about their trigger work. Anyone have any comments?</p>
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		<title>By: ToddG</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/985/comment-page-1#comment-1361</link>
		<dc:creator>ToddG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David -- I&#039;m carrying my other M&amp;P9, of course!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David &#8212; I&#8217;m carrying my other M&#038;P9, of course!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Holland</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/985/comment-page-1#comment-1360</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Holland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an unbeleivably awesome pistol.  I find this in no way dissapointing...it was going to happen sooner or later, that was the point, no?  In my opinion there is nothing to fix on S&amp;W&#039;s part, this was not the product of a defective or even weak part, its the product of EXTREME (see: awesome) abuse.  
This test makes me proud to own my new M&amp;P9 that I bought last week before I found this site. (although I payed significantly more than $400...closer to $600. But still worth it in my opinion)  
Thank you for alleviating any concerns Glock owners put into my head!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an unbeleivably awesome pistol.  I find this in no way dissapointing&#8230;it was going to happen sooner or later, that was the point, no?  In my opinion there is nothing to fix on S&amp;W&#8217;s part, this was not the product of a defective or even weak part, its the product of EXTREME (see: awesome) abuse.<br />
This test makes me proud to own my new M&amp;P9 that I bought last week before I found this site. (although I payed significantly more than $400&#8230;closer to $600. But still worth it in my opinion)<br />
Thank you for alleviating any concerns Glock owners put into my head!!</p>
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		<title>By: JoeB</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/985/comment-page-1#comment-1341</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bryan-  Your concerns are valid, and I think we all agree the the M&amp;P is a fine gun. One thing I have an issue with mine is the trigger, and after the holidays it&#039;s going to get the same treatment from the factory as the test gun.

Is there a perfect gun?  I hope I&#039;m able to keep buying them to find out! David brings up a really good point. I&#039;d love to see the same brutality dished out to a Glock, H-K, XD, anything. Despite the fact that these are all well made guns, something is going to fail sooner or later! 

That seems like the perfect job: shoot them till they break.  Todd, I&#039;d love to know your secret...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan-  Your concerns are valid, and I think we all agree the the M&amp;P is a fine gun. One thing I have an issue with mine is the trigger, and after the holidays it&#8217;s going to get the same treatment from the factory as the test gun.</p>
<p>Is there a perfect gun?  I hope I&#8217;m able to keep buying them to find out! David brings up a really good point. I&#8217;d love to see the same brutality dished out to a Glock, H-K, XD, anything. Despite the fact that these are all well made guns, something is going to fail sooner or later! </p>
<p>That seems like the perfect job: shoot them till they break.  Todd, I&#8217;d love to know your secret&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/985/comment-page-1#comment-1339</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 05:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who&#039;s to say that even if they find some sort of &quot;fix&quot; for it that the fix or new cut won&#039;t cause some other new issue once that gun is put thru what this one went thru. the whole point of this test was to run the thing into the ground and i would guarantee it would be impossible for anyone to make a gun that will never have some sort of issue with such a high round count in such a short period of time along with less than the recommended maintenance. this break on this pistol doesn&#039;t mean that all of them will do the same thing at a specific round count so really there isn&#039;t even a way to know if they&#039;ve fixed it if they even try to since it could happen at a lower count on one gun while never happening at all on another one. it&#039;s almost like a luck of the draw (pun intended) regardless of the brand or make of any pistol something will eventually give under these circumstances. that&#039;s the whole purpose of a good warranty.

what are you carrying in the meantime?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who&#8217;s to say that even if they find some sort of &#8220;fix&#8221; for it that the fix or new cut won&#8217;t cause some other new issue once that gun is put thru what this one went thru. the whole point of this test was to run the thing into the ground and i would guarantee it would be impossible for anyone to make a gun that will never have some sort of issue with such a high round count in such a short period of time along with less than the recommended maintenance. this break on this pistol doesn&#8217;t mean that all of them will do the same thing at a specific round count so really there isn&#8217;t even a way to know if they&#8217;ve fixed it if they even try to since it could happen at a lower count on one gun while never happening at all on another one. it&#8217;s almost like a luck of the draw (pun intended) regardless of the brand or make of any pistol something will eventually give under these circumstances. that&#8217;s the whole purpose of a good warranty.</p>
<p>what are you carrying in the meantime?</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well fellas don&#039;t take my comment the wrong way.  I agree with all of your comments.  It was a hard run test for, and I currently shoot the M&amp;P for a fun gun.  I think tests like the run ToddG has done go a long way to help build the credibility of the MP as a hard duty use gun, no doubt.  I mean it&#039;s $400 bucks, that&#039;s chump change compared to the $10 grand in ammo used in this test....  But there are some things I am disappointed in with the MP but the factory seems to be getting some of it sorted out.  Time will tell, but I think it&#039;s one of the more shootable production guns on the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well fellas don&#8217;t take my comment the wrong way.  I agree with all of your comments.  It was a hard run test for, and I currently shoot the M&amp;P for a fun gun.  I think tests like the run ToddG has done go a long way to help build the credibility of the MP as a hard duty use gun, no doubt.  I mean it&#8217;s $400 bucks, that&#8217;s chump change compared to the $10 grand in ammo used in this test&#8230;.  But there are some things I am disappointed in with the MP but the factory seems to be getting some of it sorted out.  Time will tell, but I think it&#8217;s one of the more shootable production guns on the market.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveJ</title>
		<link>http://pistol-training.com/archives/985/comment-page-1#comment-1336</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s one way to look at it.  The thing has 60,000 rounds through it, it often has 1,000 rounds put through it in a few hours time, it is almost never cleaned, and when the slide finally cracks it keeps on shooting?  Is this a &quot;go to war&quot; gun?  As a former soldier I&#039;d have to say &quot;oh yeah.&quot;  Smith has come out with a real winner here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s one way to look at it.  The thing has 60,000 rounds through it, it often has 1,000 rounds put through it in a few hours time, it is almost never cleaned, and when the slide finally cracks it keeps on shooting?  Is this a &#8220;go to war&#8221; gun?  As a former soldier I&#8217;d have to say &#8220;oh yeah.&#8221;  Smith has come out with a real winner here.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ToddG-

Absolutely the point!  Here is a firearm that has been abused, fatigued and subsequently (if not catostrophically) failed, and kept on running.  I thought about my earlier post; alot of good a lifetime warranty is going do me in a gun fight while my lifetime could be cut short!</description>
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<p>Absolutely the point!  Here is a firearm that has been abused, fatigued and subsequently (if not catostrophically) failed, and kept on running.  I thought about my earlier post; alot of good a lifetime warranty is going do me in a gun fight while my lifetime could be cut short!</p>
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