P30 Thursday: Week Eleven

23-Jul-09 – 11:59 by ToddG

19,445 rounds
7 stoppages, 0 malfunctions, 1 parts breakages

P30-gray-P7sFour days into the U.S. Training Center Tac Pistol I class and already almost 2,400 rounds downrange. As you can see, we’ll pass the 20,000 round mark tomorrow.

This week the P30 suffered its first parts breakage. The trigger return spring broke this afternoon during a marksmanship drill. Fired my last shot and noticed the hammer remained in a “cocked” position. A quick field strip verified my suspicion. Luckily, the folks at U.S. Training Center’s armory were able to locate a spare spring (a P2000 trigger return spring, but it works) and the gun was back up and running shortly.

Before leaving for USTC, I finally broke down and cleaned the gun for the first time in about 7,500 rounds. It looked like this: (click on any picture to see a larger image)









See you next week …

Train hard & stay safe! ToddG

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  1. 12 Responses to “P30 Thursday: Week Eleven”

  2. is it just me or is this pistol experiencing more pains than the S&W?

    By Rob E on Jul 24, 2009

  3. I do not believe that it is just you, I noticed this as well.

    By gtmtnbiker98 on Jul 24, 2009

  4. I forgot to ask, hey Todd, what did you use to clean the pistol with? I can’t recall ever seeing a pistol with that much carbon build up. Did it require a hammer and chisel?

    By gtmtnbiker98 on Jul 24, 2009

  5. I surely would of expected better performance from H&K.

    By Regularguy on Jul 24, 2009

  6. I don’t think breaking a trigger return spring just shy of 20,000 rounds is that big of a ding against the P30, most people would replace it for preventative maintenance at a much lower round count. The M&P did go almost twice as long before it broke a trigger spring though.

    By joshs on Jul 24, 2009

  7. I’d have to agree with joshs. My personal rule was always to change springs at 10,000. It’s a little early to be comparing things. The HK hasn’t had a single part replaced for maintenance yet, not even the recoil spring. Without doubt, the hammer spring issue was unfortunate for HK but to their credit they proved it was a simple fix. Hopefully, it will run without further incident. After all, I’m the guy carrying it!

    By ToddG on Jul 24, 2009

  8. gtmtnbiker98 — the only three substances on my bench are Shooter’s Choice solvent (for all cleaning needs), Militec 1 oil (for lubricating the slide/barrel and slide/frame contact points), and TW25B grease (for lubricating the contact points of the action when I detail strip the gun).

    By ToddG on Jul 25, 2009

  9. Trigger return springs are a wear item and should be replaced regularly. If you’ll recall, the M&P also had a trigger return spring break in the 20K range.

    I don’t think we can find too much fault with a return spring that gives up the ghost after 20,000 rounds.

    By John_Wayne777 on Jul 25, 2009

  10. Could you post a picture of the lower breechface side which is opposite the extractor? (cant see it in your “dirty breechface”) picture. I want to see what wear or indents (if any) there are along the slide there from the edge of the cartridge brass?

    I do notice some pitting below the firing pin hole which I also have seen on mine.

    By P30man on Jul 28, 2009

  11. Forgot to ask do you have any pictures of the barrel interior; how much fouling esp. copper was built up. It would be a good idea to have run a bench rested group measurement with the barrel dirty and then after a thorough cleaning to what the grouping sizes were.

    It seems like my P30 barrel gets copper fouled pretty easily on a low round count–even only 100 rounds. I have not run any accuracy tests to see if it affects accuracy but just seeing it frustrates me. BTW all ammo does this and other barrels seem not to get fouled so easily–whether standard L&G or polygonal.

    By P30man on Jul 28, 2009

  12. Hello to all I’m new to the site great stuff.

    By msb on Jul 29, 2009

  13. I started shooting again in april after a long lay off found the site and the other day shot the fast drill a few times
    I have a video but no timer is the a way to time it I was just curious too see where the time is at.

    By msb on Jul 29, 2009

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