Jason — Per the FASTest page:
“Only scores earned during a pistol-training.com class or similar ptc-recognized event are eligible for record status or winning a F.A.S.T. Challenge Coin.”
Thanks for that posting. Amazing efficiency of movement! He’s relaxed and yet fluid and very fast. (Everything I’m not…but this is why I train to get to get better.)
Robert Vogel here, just thought I’d chime in on this.(and thanks guys for the positive comments) As far as calling it the IDPA FAST drill I guess I just didn’t know any better. I know what the specifics are but thats about it (7yds, concealment, index card). I have to admit, I don’t do a lot of drills, I prefer to practice longer more complex courses that involve movement and thinking. When I do that short drills seem to come easier. It just popped into my head when I was working on my reloads and I decided to try it. I’ve probably only ever set it up 2-3 times before. The gear was my IDPA SSP set-up that I’ve used for some time.
All this being said I see on the site now my friend Dave Sevigny has the record on this at 3.56. I seriously had no idea there was any kind of “official” kept record on this. If mine doesn’t count because of a technicality I’m ok with it, although in watching the two videos I don’t really see what the difference is. I’m a competitive shooter and a cop and have lived and breathed shooting since I was a young boy. The point of the video was just to challenge myself and see what I could get it down to. The last thing I want to do is create a controversy out of this. Thank you Todd for allowing this to be on here.
Todd G.– Hope you can comment on the draw stroke. You had a post (that I can’t find right now), about a specific type of press-out: after the gun clears the holster it essentially travels almost vertically until you get your sight picture. Your sights stay in alignment while you extend your arms and then break your shot. Hope I explained it right. I just took a IDPA class where they taught the same technique.
Is Bob doing the same thing? Doesn’t seem like to me but I can’t tell for sure.
Damn! I was pumped the other day when I ran it in 4.99 secs.
If Sevigny is an android, does that mean Vogel is a terminator?
Wow, that was lightening speed. He is a Terminator.
Did Sevigny just get bumped to second place?
he reminds me of how Ernest Langdon shoots. Especially on the reload and the way they move their left hip as they go for the mag.
Jason — Per the FASTest page:
“Only scores earned during a pistol-training.com class or similar ptc-recognized event are eligible for record status or winning a F.A.S.T. Challenge Coin.”
Looks like he has long arms. Gives me hope as a knuckle dragger that we can be good shooters too.
Thanks for that posting. Amazing efficiency of movement! He’s relaxed and yet fluid and very fast. (Everything I’m not…but this is why I train to get to get better.)
I hate to say it, he’s running a very similar rig to Sevigny.
I hate to say I told you so, but.
http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?2150-ToddG-s-Journal-Breaking-the-Cardboard-Ceiling&p=39004#post39004
Break that IDPA race rig out and a G34 Todd, I think you could do it.
I say send his coin in the mail.
Why did he call it the IDPA Fast drill?
Robert Vogel here, just thought I’d chime in on this.(and thanks guys for the positive comments) As far as calling it the IDPA FAST drill I guess I just didn’t know any better. I know what the specifics are but thats about it (7yds, concealment, index card). I have to admit, I don’t do a lot of drills, I prefer to practice longer more complex courses that involve movement and thinking. When I do that short drills seem to come easier. It just popped into my head when I was working on my reloads and I decided to try it. I’ve probably only ever set it up 2-3 times before. The gear was my IDPA SSP set-up that I’ve used for some time.
All this being said I see on the site now my friend Dave Sevigny has the record on this at 3.56. I seriously had no idea there was any kind of “official” kept record on this. If mine doesn’t count because of a technicality I’m ok with it, although in watching the two videos I don’t really see what the difference is. I’m a competitive shooter and a cop and have lived and breathed shooting since I was a young boy. The point of the video was just to challenge myself and see what I could get it down to. The last thing I want to do is create a controversy out of this. Thank you Todd for allowing this to be on here.
Having your own blog post is cooler than a coin anyways.
I don’t think there is any real controversy dude, mostly just people going “Holy F*&$, that was fast!”
Bob — Little known official rule of the F.A.S.T., if you shoot it in 3.34 you’re allowed to call it whatever you want. 8)
Todd G.– Hope you can comment on the draw stroke. You had a post (that I can’t find right now), about a specific type of press-out: after the gun clears the holster it essentially travels almost vertically until you get your sight picture. Your sights stay in alignment while you extend your arms and then break your shot. Hope I explained it right. I just took a IDPA class where they taught the same technique.
Is Bob doing the same thing? Doesn’t seem like to me but I can’t tell for sure.
WOW that is smoking fast!
Predicted this almost a year ago. Very Nice Shooting Bob!!!
http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?474-I-guess-I-made-a-couple-USPSA-guys-mad&p=16546&viewfull=1#post16546
I would love to see this video in slo-mo.
Bob’s slow motion replay is still twice as fast as my best FAST.
I think he’s cheating, with arms that long he’s shooting from at least one yard closer than the average guy 🙂
Awesome speed, unreal to see someone shoot the FAST that fast.